[dartuser]

I gotta say chuckles ... I don't understand why you cannot at least attempt to rationally defend your position. I specifically asked you if the word baptizo was in the text ... and you come back with "no, but didomai is and that's the same thing."

it is not ... if I "give" you a dollar ... you are not "immersed" in it ...

Anyway ... you keep telling me that I must be blind for not seeing it ... I keep telling you that you are blind in that you cannot interpret or even read the text honestly. For you see, you do not interpret the Bible with any solid methodology which seeks to understand what is written ... you seek to shoehorn your personal experience of tongues, miracles, etc. into the text of scripture placing your experience as the judge of the Bible. You have, at a minimum, placed experience on equal setting with the text of scripture ... as a RC puts tradition on equal setting with scripture.

If you continue down this path, eventually it will not matter to you what the Bible says ... it will be the experience you have that will dictate your beliefs.

So I think we're done here ... I doubt this is edifying to those who are following in the background.

[chuckles]

Well, I agree to disagree and my Sunday school class and my home study group will disagree. What you are saying is because the word "Rapture" isn't in print, harpazō doesn't mean "caught up". Choose your flavor but it still means Rapture.