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Being More Faithfully Catholic Is the Only Valid Response to Shrinking Numbers
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 09-022-19 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 09/03/2019 9:28:46 AM PDT by Salvation

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To: Kozy

We do not lose heart …. We do not practice deceit, nor do we distort the word of God. On the contrary, by open proclamation of the truth, we commend ourselves to every man’s conscience in the sight of God (2 Cor 4:1-2).


21 posted on 09/03/2019 10:35:28 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: dp0622

Good post.


22 posted on 09/03/2019 10:36:57 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Steve_Seattle

We do not lose heart …. We do not practice deceit, nor do we distort the word of God. On the contrary, by open proclamation of the truth, we commend ourselves to every man’s conscience in the sight of God (2 Cor 4:1-2).


23 posted on 09/03/2019 10:37:38 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Terry L Smith

We do not lose heart …. We do not practice deceit, nor do we distort the word of God. On the contrary, by open proclamation of the truth, we commend ourselves to every man’s conscience in the sight of God (2 Cor 4:1-2).


24 posted on 09/03/2019 10:39:16 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: joe fonebone

You are still a Catholic. You are not ex-communicated. Sit down with a priest and find out why this is correct. Annulments do not range in the five-figure bracket — you have received some mistaken information.


25 posted on 09/03/2019 10:41:31 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: JPJones

My way forward is going to be joining a Missouri Synod church very soon.

It’s taken a lifetime but I’ve finally at peace with the idea that we are justified by faith alone. And what value does an elaborate hierarchy provide to ordinary Christians?

Terrible thing to have to break with the faith you were raised in, but that’s where I find myself.


26 posted on 09/03/2019 10:50:08 AM PDT by Nothingburger
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To: dp0622
I appreciate your observations, thoughts and comments.

As a seeker, who also seeks to not denominationally separate my self, I can see that Satan’s smoke is everywhere these days, including the Church.

Lots of division everywhere, too, caused by both Jesus and also by His warring enemy, too.

Nothing new under the sun and even nowadays we still must be wary of the modern decedents of the scribes and the Pharisees.

In His time, and now in our times as well, they never tire of testing and crucifying “by the book” those He sends to do His Will.

A “for what it’s worth”:

as I have warned the scribes and Pharisees, I warn today those who persecute My Messengers and condemn My Word; I warn those who laugh the Spirit off; I tell them once more that, "your own evidence tells against you, not one of you has changed, your works remain the same, your way of thinking tells against you; guides! who preach spiritual messages and yet ignore what comes from the Spirit! guides! who feed My lambs My Flesh, but keep away My Blood! have you forgotten My instructions?"
To all thing a season, including Satan’s smoke.

Even the thickest smoke dissipates in the wind and this, too, shall pass.

27 posted on 09/03/2019 11:08:19 AM PDT by GBA (Here in the matrix, merrily, merrily, life is but a dream.)
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To: JPJones
The only way forward is to purge all the communists and punish all the pedophiles that populate the clergy.

Being more faithfully Catholic would do that.

28 posted on 09/03/2019 11:48:57 AM PDT by Petrosius
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To: Salvation

What we certainly do not want to do is to follow the example of the mainline Protestant denominations, who have comprised nearly every doctrine and moral teaching to please the world rather than God.

THAT is the critical take-away in this piece.


29 posted on 09/03/2019 11:53:46 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer.)
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To: Salvation

“Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the road broad that leads to destruction, and those that enter are many. How the narrow gate and constricted the road that leads to life. Matthew 7; 13-14.

The Catholic faith is challenged by the ways of the world, but also through many within the Catholic Church including the clergy and leadership. There is much confusion in the Catholic Church about the Catholic Faith. Part of the reason for the increase in the Catholic faith as the Good News was given to the world, Catholics were willing to suffer and die for our Savior Jesus Christ. Some still are. Are the rest of us still willing to stand for the Truth of our faith?

It is up to each individual to accept that we were made in the image of God and we are a child of God, accept God’s love and return our love to God and our neighbors. Our life on earth is short and life with God is forever.

May the Holy Spirit give us the strength and understanding to follow Christ so that our Catholic Faith will be available for all until the end of time.


30 posted on 09/03/2019 12:15:24 PM PDT by ADSUM
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To: JPJones

As a mathematician would say: Necessary, but not sufficient.


31 posted on 09/03/2019 12:37:18 PM PDT by Campion ((marine dad))
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To: dp0622

well said.


32 posted on 09/03/2019 12:44:12 PM PDT by raygunfan
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To: ConservativeWarrior
I’d love to be able to come back to the church.

Then get off the couch and find a decent parish. Please remember, at your Judgement, Our Lord will ask why you abandoned Him. 'Because other people sinned' is not a good answer. If you love Him, you will search for a parish which worships Him. They do exist.

33 posted on 09/03/2019 1:44:21 PM PDT by pbear8 (the Lord is my light and my salvation)
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To: joe fonebone

You can always worship Our Lord at Holy Mass, you are barred from Holy Communion of course. If you love Him go to Mass, if you want to complain...


34 posted on 09/03/2019 1:46:53 PM PDT by pbear8 (the Lord is my light and my salvation)
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To: pbear8

So unless I fund the current globalist pedophilia church I’m abandoning Jesus? Haha!

Holy brainwashed...


35 posted on 09/03/2019 1:54:49 PM PDT by ConservativeWarrior (Fall down 7 times, stand up 8. - Japanese proverb)
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To: chopperk

Unfortunately most who call themselves Catholic (including the putative Catholic hierarchy) think Vatican II is Catholic.


36 posted on 09/03/2019 1:55:39 PM PDT by piusv (Francis didn't start the Fire)
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<< “as well as those who embrace Eastern religions, yoga, reiki, Wicca, Santeria, Wicca, Santa Muerte, and Satanism.” >>

“You said Wicca twice”


37 posted on 09/03/2019 2:12:08 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Salvation

You’re admitting it’s just a matter of paying the right amount to have an annulment. Something a lot of us have said all along.


38 posted on 09/03/2019 2:32:24 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: JPJones

The dumbest thing I’ve ever read.

The only way forward is to purge all the communists and punish all the pedophiles that populate the clergy.

>>>>

Ok. You go start a council, and see how many Bishops you know attend.

Simply saying, “purge all communists and punish all the pedophiles” is like saying, “Get rid of all liberals in America then we can be patriotic citizens.”

Hand-wringing and fist-waving isn’t going to do anything.


39 posted on 09/03/2019 2:37:43 PM PDT by Bayard
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To: joe fonebone

You obviously don’t know anything about Catholic teaching and annulments.

The Catholic Church doesn’t charge for annulments. Originally the cost was to defray the expenses to investigate your matrimony. Now its free, so you have no excuse not to go get one.

Although, five thousand is pitifully cheap to be saved. I don’t see why you would complain about the price when the treasure of following Jesus is worth more than any price.


40 posted on 09/03/2019 2:43:00 PM PDT by Bayard
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