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Catholicism made me Protestant
First Things ^ | 9/11/2019 | Onsi A. Kamel

Posted on 09/11/2019 10:52:15 AM PDT by Gamecock

Like all accounts of God’s faithfulness, mine begins with a genealogy. In the late seventeenth century, my mother’s Congregationalist ancestors journeyed to the New World to escape what they saw as England’s deadly compromise with Romanism. Centuries later, ­American Presbyterians converted my father’s great-­grandmother from Coptic ­Orthodoxy to ­Protestantism. Her son became a Presbyterian minister in the Evangelical Coptic Church. By the time my parents were ­living in ­twenty-first-century Illinois, their families’ historic Reformed commitments had been replaced by non-denominational, ­Baptistic ­evangelicalism.

This form of Christianity dominated my Midwestern hometown. My parents taught me to love God, revere the Scriptures, and seek truth through reason. In middle school, my father introduced me to theology, and as a present for my sixteenth birthday he arranged a meeting between me and a Catholic philosopher, Dr. B—. From high school into college, Dr. B— introduced me to Catholic thought and graciously helped me work through my doubts about Christianity. How could a just and loving God not reveal himself equally to everyone? What are we to make of the Bible’s creation stories and flood narrative? Did Calvinism make God the author of evil? My acquaintance with Dr. B— set my intellectual trajectory for several years.

The causes of any conversion (or near conversion) are many and confused. Should I foreground psychological and social factors or my theological reasoning? Certain elements of my attraction to Catholicism were adolescent, like a sixties radical’s attraction to Marx or a contemporary activist’s to intersectionality: I aimed to preserve the core beliefs of my upbringing while fleeing their bourgeois expressions. When I arrived at the University of Chicago, I knew just enough about Calvinism to hold it in ­contempt—which is to say, I knew very little. Reacting against the middle-aged leaders of the inaptly named “Young, Restless, and Reformed Movement,” I sought refuge in that other great ­Western ­theological tradition: ­Roman ­Catholicism.

During my first year of college, I became involved in campus Catholic life. Through the influence of the Catholic student group and the Lumen Christi Institute, which hosts lectures by Catholic intellectuals, my theologically inclined college friends began converting to Catholicism, one after another. These friends were devout, intelligent, and schooled in Christian history. I met faithful and holy Catholic priests—one of whom has valiantly defended the faith for years, drawing punitive opposition from his own religious superiors, as well as the ire of Chicago’s archbishop. This priest was and is to me the very model of a holy, righteous, and courageous man.

I loved Catholicism because Catholics taught me to love the Church. At Lumen Christi events, I heard about saints and mystics, stylites and monastics, desert fathers and late-antique theologians. I was captivated by the holy martyrs, relics, Mary, and the Mass. I found in the Church a spiritual mother and the mother of all the faithful. Through Catholicism, I came into an inheritance: a past of saints and redeemed sinners from all corners of the earth, theologians who illuminated the deep things of God, music and art that summon men to worship God “in the beauty of holiness,” and a tradition to ground me in a world of flux.

Catholicism, which I took to be the Christianity of history, was a world waiting to be discovered. I set about exploring, and I tried to bring others along. I debated tradition with my mother, sola Scriptura with my then fiancée (now wife), and the meaning of the Eucharist with my father. On one occasion, a Reformed professor dispensed with my arguments for transubstantiation in a matter of minutes.

Not long after this, I began to notice discrepancies between Catholic apologists’ map of the tradition and the terrain I encountered in the tradition itself. St. Ambrose’s doctrine of justification sounded a great deal more like Luther’s sola fide than like Trent. St. John Chrysostom’s teaching on repentance and absolution—“Mourn and you annul the sin”—would have been more at home in Geneva than Paris. St. Thomas’s doctrine of predestination, much to my horror, was nearly identical to the Synod of Dordt’s. The Anglican divine Richard Hooker quoted Irenaeus, ­Chrysostom, ­Augustine, and Pope Leo I as he rejected doctrines and practices because they were not grounded in Scripture. He cited Pope Gregory the Great on the “­ungodly” title of universal bishop. The Council of ­Nicaea assumed that Alexandria was on a par with Rome, and Chalcedon declared that the Roman patriarchate was privileged only “because [Rome] was the royal city.” In short, I began to wonder whether the Reformers had a legitimate claim to the Fathers. The Church of Rome could not be straightforwardly identified as catholic.

John Henry Newman became my crucial interlocutor: More than in Ratzinger, Wojtyła, or Congar, in Newman I found a kindred spirit. Here was a man obsessed with the same questions that ate at me, questions of tradition and authority. With Newman, I agonized over conversion. I devoured his Essay on the Development of Christian Doctrine and his Apologia pro Vita Sua. Two of his ideas were pivotal for me: his theory of doctrinal development and his articulation of the problem of private judgment. On these two ideas hung all the claims of Rome.

In retrospect, I see that Newman’s need to construct a theory of doctrinal development tells against Rome’s claims of continuity with the ancient Church. And at the time, though I wished to accept Newman’s proposal that “the early condition, and the evidence, of each doctrine . . . ought consistently to be interpreted by means of that development which was ultimately attained,” I could not. One could only justify such assumptions if one were already committed to Roman Catholic doctrine and Rome’s meaningful continuity with what came before. Without either of these commitments, I simply could not find a plausible reason to speak of “development” rather than “disjuncture,” especially because what came before so often contradicted what followed.

The issue of ecclesiastical authority was trickier for me. I recognized the absurdity of a twenty-year-old presuming to adjudicate claims about the Scriptures and two thousand years of history. Newman’s arguments against private judgment therefore had a prima facie plausibility for me. In his Apologia, Newman argues that man’s rebellion against God introduced an “anarchical condition of things,” leading human thought toward “suicidal excesses.” Hence, the fittingness of a divinely established living voice infallibly proclaiming supernatural truths. In his discourse on “Faith and Private Judgment,” Newman castigates Protestants for refusing to “surrender” reason in matters religious. The implication is that reason is unreliable in matters of revelation. Faith is assent to the incontestable, self-evident truth of God’s revelation, and reasoning becomes an excuse to refuse to bend the knee.

The more I internalized ­Newman’s claims about private judgment, however, the more I descended into skepticism. I could not reliably interpret the Scriptures, history, or God’s Word preached and given in the sacraments. But if I could not do these things, if my reason was unfit in matters religious, how was I to assess Newman’s arguments for Roman Catholicism? Newman himself had once recognized this dilemma, writing in a pre-conversion letter, “We have too great a horror of the principle of private judgment to trust it in so immense a matter as that of changing from one communion to another.” Did he expect me to forfeit the faculty by which I adjudicate truth claims, because that faculty is fallible? My ­conversion would have to be rooted in my private ­judgment—but, because of Rome’s claim of infallibility, conversion would forbid me from exercising that faculty ever again on doctrinal questions.

Finally, the infighting among traditionalist, conservative, and liberal Catholics made plain that Catholics did not gain by their magisterium a clear, living voice of divine authority. They received from the past a set of magisterial documents that had to be weighed and interpreted, often over against living prelates. The ­magisterium of prior ages only multiplied the texts one had to interpret for oneself, for living bishops, it turns out, are as bad at reading as the rest of us.

But I did not remain a Protestant merely because I could not become a Catholic. While I was discovering that Roman Catholicism could not be straightforwardly identified with the catholicism of the first six centuries (nor, in certain respects, with that of the seventh century through the twelfth), and as I was wrestling with Newman, I finally began reading the Reformers. What I found shocked me. Catholicism had, by this time, reoriented my theological concerns around the concerns of the Church catholic. My assumptions, and the issues that animated me, were those of the Church of history. My evangelical upbringing had led me to believe that Protestantism entailed the rejection of these concerns. But this notion exploded upon contact with the Protestantism of history.

Martin Luther, John Calvin, Richard Hooker, Herman Bavinck, Karl Barth—they wrestled with the concerns of the Church catholic and provided answers to the questions Catholicism had taught me to pose. Richard Hooker interpreted the Church’s traditions; Calvin followed Luther’s Augustinianism, proclaimed the visible Church the mother of the faithful, and claimed for the Reformation the Church’s exegetical tradition; Barth convinced me that God’s Word could speak, certainly and surely, from beyond all created realities, to me.

Catholicism had taught me to think like a Protestant, because, as it turned out, the Reformers had thought like catholics. Like their pope-aligned opponents, they had asked questions about justification, the authority of tradition, the mode of Christ’s self-gift in the Eucharist, the nature of apostolic succession, and the Church’s wielding of the keys. Like their opponents, Protestants had appealed to Scripture and tradition. In time, I came to find their answers not only plausible, but more faithful to Scripture than the Catholic answers, and at least as well-represented in the traditions of the Church.

The Protestants did more than out-catholic the Catholics. They also spoke to the deepest needs of sinful souls. I will never forget the moment when, like Luther five hundred years earlier, I discovered justification by faith alone through union with Christ. I was sitting in my dorm room by myself. I had been assigned Luther’s Explanations of the Ninety-Five ­Theses, and I expected to find it facile. A year or two prior, I had decided that Trent was right about justification: It was entirely a gift of grace consisting of the gradual perfecting of the soul by faith and works—God instigating and me cooperating. For years, I had attempted to live out this model of justification. I had gone to Mass regularly, prayed the rosary with friends, fasted frequently, read the Scriptures daily, prayed earnestly, and sought advice from spiritual directors. I had begun this arduous cooperation with God’s grace full of hope; by the time I sat in that dorm room alone, I was distraught and demoralized. I had learned just how wretched a sinner I was: No good work was unsullied by pride, no repentance unaccompanied by expectations of future sin, no love free from selfishness.

In this state, I picked up my copy of that arch-heretic Luther and read his explanation of Thesis 37: “Any true Christian, whether living or dead, participates in all the blessings of Christ and the church; and this is granted him by God, even without indulgence letters.” With these words, Luther transformed my understanding of justification: Every Christian possesses Christ, and to possess Christ is to possess all of Christ’s righteousness, life, and merits. Christ had joined me to himself.

I had “put on Christ” in baptism and, by faith through the work of the Spirit, all things were mine, and I was Christ’s, and Christ was God’s (Gal. 3:27; 1 Cor. 3:21–23). His was not an uncertain mercy; his was not a grace of parts, which one hoped would become a whole; his was not a salvation to be attained, as though it were not already also a present possession. At that moment, the joy of my salvation poured into my soul. I wept and showed forth God’s praise. I had finally discovered the true ground and power of Protestantism: “My beloved is mine, and I am his” (Song 2:16).

Rome had brought me to ­Reformation.


TOPICS: Catholic; Evangelical Christian; General Discusssion; Mainline Protestant
KEYWORDS: catholic; charismatic; conversion; evangelical; kamel; onsiakamel; protestantism; romancatholic; romancatholicism; tiber
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To: Petrosius; ealgeone
Galatians 3:1-29 O foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you? It was before your eyes that Jesus Christ was publicly portrayed as crucified. Let me ask you only this: Did you receive the Spirit by works of the law or by hearing with faith? Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected by the flesh? Did you suffer so many things in vain—if indeed it was in vain? Does he who supplies the Spirit to you and works miracles among you do so by works of the law, or by hearing with faith— just as Abraham “believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness”?

Know then that it is those of faith who are the sons of Abraham. And the Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel beforehand to Abraham, saying, “In you shall all the nations be blessed.” So then, those who are of faith are blessed along with Abraham, the man of faith.

For all who rely on works of the law are under a curse; for it is written, “Cursed be everyone who does not abide by all things written in the Book of the Law, and do them.” Now it is evident that no one is justified before God by the law, for “The righteous shall live by faith.” But the law is not of faith, rather “The one who does them shall live by them.” Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us—for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who is hanged on a tree”— so that in Christ Jesus the blessing of Abraham might come to the Gentiles, so that we might receive the promised Spirit through faith.

To give a human example, brothers: even with a man-made covenant, no one annuls it or adds to it once it has been ratified. Now the promises were made to Abraham and to his offspring. It does not say, “And to offsprings,” referring to many, but referring to one, “And to your offspring,” who is Christ. This is what I mean: the law, which came 430 years afterward, does not annul a covenant previously ratified by God, so as to make the promise void. For if the inheritance comes by the law, it no longer comes by promise; but God gave it to Abraham by a promise.

Why then the law? It was added because of transgressions, until the offspring should come to whom the promise had been made, and it was put in place through angels by an intermediary. Now an intermediary implies more than one, but God is one.

Is the law then contrary to the promises of God? Certainly not! For if a law had been given that could give life, then righteousness would indeed be by the law. But the Scripture imprisoned everything under sin, so that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe.

Now before faith came, we were held captive under the law, imprisoned until the coming faith would be revealed. So then, the law was our guardian until Christ came, in order that we might be justified by faith. But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian, for in Christ Jesus you are all sons of God, through faith. For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise.

101 posted on 09/11/2019 8:05:42 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: ZinGirl
Salvation IS a gift but it can be lost thru sin? Soooo...you have to earn it back?

Good question. Oh, no, they will assert! It is ALL because of God's grace, they will claim. BUT...if you can lose something (a gift) by your actions, how can they claim it is a gift or it's grace??? Grace means undeserved, unmerited, unearned, you can't work or DO anything to get a gift by grace. You receive a gift - God says you believe in what Christ has done for you and He imputes the righteousness of Jesus Christ to you, He clothes you in the robes of Christ's righteousness and not your own (because our own righteousnesses are filthy rags). Because we haven't yet died and gone to be with Him in heaven, we are still waiting. So if we can lose our salvation by sinning, then it can't be by grace we are saved. It's either grace OR works - not both. If it's grace, then it can't be by works because then grace wouldn't BE grace and vice versa (see Romans 11:6).

102 posted on 09/11/2019 8:14:16 PM PDT by boatbums (semper reformanda secundum verbum dei)
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To: Petrosius; MHGinTN
But remember, the sacraments are the works of God, not of man.

No, they are things that man must do to allegedly avail himself of God's grace.

That makes sacraments a work.

If it was God doing it, then He's just do it without man having to do anything to *merit* it.

103 posted on 09/11/2019 8:15:56 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: boatbums
“He who endures until the end will be saved” - Jesus
Hebrews 10 lays out the case of the importance of the state of your soul at death. Verse 26 says explicitly if one keeps sinning after Grace they fall under judgment. Taken as a whole, God condemns sinners period and will refuse unrepentant adulterers, fornicators, murderers, homosexuals, thieves, liars, etc... after being bestowed by Grace because again, God refuses those flaunting behaviors that are consistently condemned.
Gifts can be returned, again God is looking for those who display love and “treating others as you would want to be treated”.
104 posted on 09/11/2019 8:35:36 PM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians)
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To: Petrosius; ZinGirl
If we have lost our salvation through serious sin...

If we can lose our salvation by sinning seriously, then how is that NOT saying we get salvation by avoiding sinning (aka, good works, being good, etc.)? In other words, you ARE saying we have to earn, deserve or merit salvation by what we do, or don't do. The "silly idea" is from the false and accursed gospel of Roman Catholicism.

105 posted on 09/11/2019 8:47:58 PM PDT by boatbums (semper reformanda secundum verbum dei)
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To: rollo tomasi

You have taken the words of Jesus, referri g to the end of the age (the seven years of ‘Jacob’s Trouble) and completely miss applied it. Wresting the Word of God to deceive is a grace sin.


106 posted on 09/11/2019 9:00:02 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: MHGinTN

A GRAVE SIN


107 posted on 09/11/2019 9:00:58 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: boatbums

Round and round... of course faith gets you saved, however, through life that you are living, you are being saved. Look at all those nifty commands Jesus taught. Do you actually think that was just for flavor? Jesus even said that yoke (Oh my, works) are east to bear.

Mathew 7: 22-23 says everyone must check themselves, oh gee, another work to figure out. Again, God has standards, David found that out after being His apple of God’s eye and was on his way of losing salvation unless he did a 180 fast.


108 posted on 09/11/2019 9:05:26 PM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians)
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To: rollo tomasi

How many sins in your future IS God going to be surprised by? When God births one from above He imputes the Righteousness of Christ to them. He seals their spirit . Your reasoning implies God missed something of the future of the born again faither in Jesus and the Promise of God. Have you not read that HE knows the end from the begining?


109 posted on 09/11/2019 9:08:48 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: MHGinTN

According to you all, I am alright anyway since Grace can’t be lost. Btw, Mathew 10 dealt with several lessons to the Apostles. Verse 22 just reinforced and provided a good lesson to Peter and all of us.


110 posted on 09/11/2019 9:12:01 PM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians)
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To: MHGinTN

Nope, just going by that free will concept. Even Paul doubted himself multiple times until he was close to death. Predestination is more a look through God’s perspective, not ours. Hence the whole list of behaviors that God hates.


111 posted on 09/11/2019 9:15:07 PM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians)
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To: MHGinTN

Please explain how Mathew 10 applies towards Jacobs’ trouble? Grave sin indeed, lol.


112 posted on 09/11/2019 9:22:44 PM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians)
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To: Rashputin

113 posted on 09/11/2019 9:37:15 PM PDT by boatbums (semper reformanda secundum verbum dei)
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To: rollo tomasi

Laugh, yes keep laughing. But do yourself the favor of not missusing the Words of Jesus. Learn to see passages in context, and be open to The Spirit’s instruction, even if it comes from someone you presume to laugh at. (See also Matthew 24 and Luke 21)


114 posted on 09/11/2019 9:38:26 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: rollo tomasi

Have you not read that He knows the end from the begining? His knowing does not remove your free will, it just sees it coming before you do.


115 posted on 09/11/2019 9:41:32 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: rollo tomasi
I don't think you actually read what I said, so I'll post it again:

If we can lose our salvation by sinning seriously, then how is that NOT saying we get salvation by avoiding sinning (aka, good works, being good, etc.)? In other words, you ARE saying we have to earn, deserve or merit salvation by what we do, or don't do. The "silly idea" is from the false and accursed gospel of Roman Catholicism.

Can you address that instead of mocking sarcasm?

116 posted on 09/11/2019 9:52:43 PM PDT by boatbums (semper reformanda secundum verbum dei)
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To: fidelis

It’s words that Luther added.


117 posted on 09/11/2019 10:03:40 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Antoninus

Pray for the return of the author to the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church.


118 posted on 09/11/2019 10:07:21 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: SaxxonWoods

You are still a Catholic. The marks of Baptism and Confirmation are on your soul.


119 posted on 09/11/2019 10:10:15 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: boatbums
So drink already instead of remaining a heretic.


120 posted on 09/12/2019 12:06:42 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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