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To: daniel1212

“denial of their Divine right to command...”

So those who reject Francis and claim Benedict is the “real” pope are forcing a state of schism?


17 posted on 09/13/2019 3:59:02 PM PDT by Marchmain (peace...pax)
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To: Marchmain
So those who reject Francis and claim Benedict is the “real” pope are forcing a state of schism?

Indeed, for a pope relinquishes power and affirms a successor as head then rejection of the latter is a rejection of the authority of the former.

Romans 13:1 comes into play here: Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.

This command does not require unconditional obedience, as other texts show, but neither does it excuse obedience to commands that do not truly conflict with the higher authority of the preserved and substantive record of God's word.

The "powers that be" can be replaced, or the people escape unjust rulers, but then the same requirement of submission applies to those under leadership that replaces them.

And as regards Roman Catholicism, much papal teaching is contrary to the idea that the laity are to make the validity of church teaching subject to their own judgment of whether or not it is consistent with past church teaching, as they understand it (even though that is not how the NT church began).

'the one duty of the multitude is to allow themselves to be led, and, like a docile flock, to follow the Pastors," "to suffer themselves to be guided and led in all things that touch upon faith or morals by the Holy Church of God through its Supreme Pastor the Roman Pontiff," "of submitting with docility to their judgment," with "no discussions regarding what he orders or demands, or up to what point obedience must go, and in what things he is to be obeyed... not only in person, but with letters and other public documents ;" and 'not limit the field in which he might and must exercise his authority, " for "obedience must not limit itself to matters which touch the faith: its sphere is much more vast: it extends to all matters which the episcopal power embraces," and not set up "some kind of opposition between one Pontiff and another. Those who, faced with two differing directives, reject the present one to hold to the past, are not giving proof of obedience to the authority which has the right and duty to guide them," "Nor must it be thought that what is expounded in Encyclical Letters does not of itself demand consent." (Sources http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3578348/posts?page=14#14)

19 posted on 09/13/2019 5:13:23 PM PDT by daniel1212 ( Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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