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1 posted on 01/31/2020 8:10:36 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

life support, keeping someone alive, why keep them from heaven... food and hydration is another thing...


2 posted on 01/31/2020 8:15:55 AM PST by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world)
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When is it ‘right’ to employee life support?


3 posted on 01/31/2020 8:17:29 AM PST by devane617 (Kyrie Eleison, where I'm going, will you follow?)
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As per my will, no extraordinary measures for me, thank you and god bless!


4 posted on 01/31/2020 8:20:02 AM PST by JonPreston
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To: SeekAndFind

If I am unconscious and there is no reasonable short-term cure or bridge to recovery, let me go.


5 posted on 01/31/2020 8:23:36 AM PST by RatRipper
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To: SeekAndFind

Here is the program I manage: www.sanjoaquinccc.org


6 posted on 01/31/2020 8:26:13 AM PST by Gman
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My wife and I have an iron clad DNR, No life support, No feeding tubes legal document set up.

So that explains where I stand.


7 posted on 01/31/2020 8:26:14 AM PST by setter
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Not completely on subject... People with Alzheimers and other forms of dementia used to hang on around here for many years. More recently we seem to be noticing among people we have known personally that their life expectancy after being diagnosed in this area has gone way down. Many have taken a trip to Oregon and haven’t come back. Supposedly Oregon’s assisted suicide law require the person to be competent to make that decision, but there appears to be some type of loophole.


8 posted on 01/31/2020 8:26:25 AM PST by fireman15
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Just had to go through this with my mom who fell and suffered a brain aneurysm and she was effectively brain dead within an hour.
For the most part her body was fine but she was non-responsive and the part of her brain regulating breathing had been damaged so that she required a breathing machine.
Mom had always wanted to have her life prolonged if need be and I flew down ready to put up a fight to see that through if I had to, but she was effectively gone already and we pulled the breathing machine. She passed 48 hours later.

It was different for my grandmother who had had a stroke and had some cognitive ability but couldn’t swallow. So my uncle had a feeding tube out in and she was with us for another 6 months under steady decline and several nursing homes. With hindsight my uncle isn’t sure he would’ve gone ahead with the feeding tube as her life wasn’t much in that last 6 months but also was happy that he felt he had done all he could to prolong her life.

No easy answers - but we should defend life when we can. That makes it valuable.


9 posted on 01/31/2020 8:28:16 AM PST by Skywise
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When the signed paperwork from the patient is presented to the doctor or the family knows the intentions of the patient. Not sure why anybody would want to watch a family member on machines. That’s cruel and sinful as well as selfish!!!


11 posted on 01/31/2020 8:33:23 AM PST by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016)
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I’m dealing with end of life issues with a relative and have for years. It’s important to know that what medical professionals consider “life support” is different than what the general public does.

Life support is NOT just being hooked up to a heart/lung machine. They consider intravenous feeding and hydration life support. They want end of life directives that call for no extraordinary measures without specifying what those measures are. That gives them the cover to starve and dehydrate patients to death.


14 posted on 01/31/2020 8:48:03 AM PST by Varda
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It is God’s decision when we are born and when we die.


18 posted on 01/31/2020 9:10:54 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Too many people supposedly “brain dead” or in a “vegetative state” have been killed. They were NOT already DEAD.

If a baby in the womb has neural activity DAYS after conception, how can abortion be legal?

“The fetal nervous system — i.e., your baby’s brain and spinal cord — is one of the very first systems to develop. In fact, it’s making big strides before you even know you’re pregnant.”

I’m 100% pro LIFE. ALL lives matter.


20 posted on 01/31/2020 9:41:52 AM PST by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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Ummm - drastic measures to preserve life take the natural order of things out of it...shouldn’t be anything wrong for someone to request nothing more than nutrition and fluid - even if only what they can ingest by mouth, and maybe something to keep them from suffering.


21 posted on 01/31/2020 9:44:55 AM PST by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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I had to make this decision for my estranged wife this past September. We were separated, and she had filed for divorce (and was fired by her attorney for lack of communication, one of the major problems in our 18 year marriage). She had a massive hemorrhagic stroke, and had no higher brain function for 5 days. I obviously didn’t make this decision in a vacuum, as I had her brother drive in and we made the decision together - after he saw her, met with the doctor, etc.

She would have been 54 in 11 days.

Toughest decision I’ve ever had to make, bar none.


23 posted on 01/31/2020 11:10:27 AM PST by ro_dreaming (Chesterton, 'Christianity has not been tried and found wanting. It's been found hard and not tried')
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Putting oneself in the hands of God and surrendering to his plan, should never be a problem. Killing yourself is never OK.

At least that is my opinion.


24 posted on 01/31/2020 12:44:35 PM PST by Robert357
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