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It Is The Decision of the Holy Spirit and Us - A Teaching on the Catholicity of the Early Church
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 05-14-20 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 05/15/2020 7:48:45 AM PDT by Salvation

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To: Zuriel
In the three pillars topic: does the living magesterium include the current pope Francis???

You know it does.

If Pope Francis were so horrible then you must blame ALL THE CURRENT CARDINALS who voted him in. He wasn't self appointed. He was ELECTED.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_living_cardinals

21 posted on 05/15/2020 1:30:47 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain

Well, then the current third pillar doesn’t seem to have much respect for the first two pillars. Maybe the current third pillar’s condition was enabled by centuries of misuse of the first two pillars. (imho)


22 posted on 05/15/2020 1:52:10 PM PDT by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
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To: Zuriel

She liked to stay in the background.


23 posted on 05/15/2020 2:32:01 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: ealgeone

Wrong. Where do protestants get this idea. Peter was the person put in charge by Jesus.


24 posted on 05/15/2020 2:33:40 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: smvoice

Wrong. Are you saying that Jesus was wrong when he gave the Keys to the Kingdom to Peter and put him in charge of the Apstles?


25 posted on 05/15/2020 2:34:49 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

How do you jump the shark so easily? I’m saying there never WAS a pope. That if James was HEAD of the Council at Jerusalem, then obviously James was HEAD over Peter. Did Peter let James “play” HEAD? it’s to attempt to show you that God’s word does not contradict itself.


26 posted on 05/15/2020 2:50:38 PM PDT by smvoice (I WILL NOT WEAR THEok RIBBON.)
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To: Salvation
She liked to stay in the background.

Now that's comical...and about one of the worst apologetics I've read on these forums.

27 posted on 05/15/2020 2:59:38 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Salvation
Wrong. Are you saying that Jesus was wrong when he gave the Keys to the Kingdom to Peter and put him in charge of the Apstles?

Comical again and incorrect on so many levels.

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6But from those who were of high reputation (what they were makes no difference to me; God shows no partiality)—well, those who were of reputation contributed nothing to me. 7But on the contrary, seeing that I had been entrusted with the gospel to the uncircumcised, just as Peter had been to the circumcised 8(for He who effectually worked for Peter in his apostleship to the circumcised effectually worked for me also to the Gentiles), 9and recognizing the grace that had been given to me, James and Cephas and John, who were reputed to be pillars, gave to me and Barnabas the right hand of fellowship, so that we might go to the Gentiles and they to the circumcised. Galatians 2:6-9 NASB

28 posted on 05/15/2020 3:03:22 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Salvation
She liked to stay in the background.

You're good at posting the RCC talking points....but your not good at apologetics on your own.

29 posted on 05/15/2020 3:04:48 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Zuriel
Well, then the current third pillar doesn’t seem to have much respect for the first two pillars. Maybe the current third pillar’s condition was enabled by centuries of misuse of the first two pillars. (imho)

Is this based on your knowledge of the Magesterium? Who is on it now that you don't like or trust? Have you read what the various cardinals have published? Do you know what their opinions are? What of those publications do you find offensive?

You separate the Pillars like they are a loaf of bread. They are all intertwined and have existed intertwined for 2000 years. They wouldn't have continued so long if they weren't genuine. The Holy Scripture goes back to Moses, 1291 B.C. How can you rate his words from God?

What do you know of the misuses over the last 2000 years? Or is it that you just "don't like" Pope Francis and therefore pin all the 2000 years of errors on ONE person?
You aren't making much sense and your thinking seems to be incomplete, scattered and biased.
Thank you for your thoughts anyway.

Pax tibi.

30 posted on 05/15/2020 3:34:16 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: smvoice
You’re telling us that MARY, the RCC “CO-REDEMPTRESS, THE QUEEN OF THE UNIVERSE(acc.to the RCC), THE “THROAT BETWEEN THE BODY AND THE HEAD OF THE CHURCH the BODY OF CHRIST(acc.to RCC) could have been there and just not mentioned?!?!! This tops the pile of ridiculous excuses that the RCC has foisted on gullible, too lazy to look for the truth members.

You seem to expect Mary to be included in everything. Since when are YOU a critic of the Bible, what should be and what shouldn't be included?

Who made YOU Mary's critic? I thought that these were the WORDS OF GOD given to mortal men to write down for the world to know of God, His only Son Jesus, and the Holy Spirit?

Do you really think that YOU deserve to criticize the Bible, who's in it, when s/he should or should not be in it?

That seems to be a whole lot of arrogance, PRIDE, the first and the worst of the seven deadly sins...if you even know what they are. And, guess what? They were enumerated by POPE GREGORY I, yet another Pope. Oh dear.

Protestants sure didn't do it. They didn't even EXIST until ONE THOUSAND, FIVE HUNDRED AND FORTY YEARS after Jesus rose from the dead.

AND Protestantism began with an excommunicated Roman Catholic priest. So YOUR faith was founded by a Catholic outcast. Father Luther spent almost his entire life as a devoted servant of the Catholic Church. He was a BRILLIANT man but suffered from pride. He had many chances to recant but his stubborn pride showed that he listened to Satan.
SATAN would be the only being who would want to destroy Jesus' Church.
But, as usual, Satan failed. God KNEW that Lucifer would betray Him. God allowed Satan his free will. Satan chose Hell.

Excommunicated Father Martin Luther listened to Satan and tried to destroy Jesus' Church. He failed.
There are 1.3 BILLION Catholics in the world, as of 2013.

PAX TIBI!

31 posted on 05/15/2020 3:56:00 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain
You seem to expect Mary to be included in everything.

Perhaps because Roman Catholic writers have advanced this narrative.

32 posted on 05/15/2020 4:01:01 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: cloudmountain

Seven deadly sins?? LOL...all sin is deadly.


33 posted on 05/15/2020 4:02:04 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: cloudmountain

Lol! That’s rich..coming from a religious system whose very religion comes entirely from traditions and doctrines of men. The Bible is added to or taken from in order to justify every one of your beliefs. Do not lecture me about the Bible, sir. You aren’t familiar enough with it, it seems


34 posted on 05/15/2020 4:10:09 PM PDT by smvoice (I WILL NOT WEAR THEok RIBBON.)
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To: ealgeone
Seven deadly sins?? LOL...all sin is deadly.

Murder is worse then taking your brother's dessert off his plate.

NOT ALL SINS are the same. There IS mortal sin (murder) and venial sin (taking your brother's dessert)
But, you know that.

Or do you really believe that both of those sins are equal and deserving of hell, everlasting punishment?

35 posted on 05/15/2020 4:12:19 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain

You’re bragging about the size of your church? Paul said “we dare not make of ourselves a number”. Do you think numbers mean correctness? How do you square with muslims?


36 posted on 05/15/2020 4:12:45 PM PDT by smvoice (I WILL NOT WEAR THEok RIBBON.)
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To: ealgeone
You seem to expect Mary to be included in everything.
Perhaps because Roman Catholic writers have advanced this narrative

What do you mean by "advanced this narrative"--?
How does one "advance a narrative" about Mary?

37 posted on 05/15/2020 4:14:17 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain
Or do you really believe that both of those sins are equal and deserving of hell, everlasting punishment?

23For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. Romans 6:23 NASB

38 posted on 05/15/2020 4:15:00 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: smvoice
Roman Catholics like to claim big numbers when it's convenient for their argument. However, bring up Nanzi Pelozi, Biden, Kennedy, etc and they will disclaim them in a heartbeat.

Hate to break it to the RCs, but God is not impressed with numbers.

39 posted on 05/15/2020 4:17:01 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: cloudmountain

One just reads Roman Catholic writings on the topic.


40 posted on 05/15/2020 4:17:27 PM PDT by ealgeone
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