If God wants everyone saved, why isn’t everyone saved?

p>It is natural and normal for people to reject the Christian faith. Moreover, the Bible isn’t shy about telling us that.

Courtesy of Robin Schumacher

Regarding the gospel message, Paul says: “Jews ask for signs and Greeks search for wisdom; but we preach Christ crucified, to Jews a stumbling block and to Gentiles foolishness” (1 Cor. 1:22-23).

To the Jews back then, a crucified Messiah was a contradiction in terms and still is today. To everyone else, the gospel literally sounds ‘moronic’; the Greek term Paul uses (mória) for ‘foolishness’ is where we get our word for ‘moron’.

But the Bible also tells us the same God who uses such a ‘foolish’ message to proclaim salvation wants everyone saved. Paul says, “This is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.” (1 Tim. 2:3–4), while Peter declares: “The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance” (2 Peter 3:9).

If God is all-powerful and sovereign over everything and wants everyone saved, why did He craft such a ‘foolish’ salvation message that most find absurd and end up rejecting? Put another way, does God get what He wants or not? [1]

1. There is a power in the universe greater than God’s that is frustrating Him by overruling what He wills.

2. God does get what He wants, but He wills something more than the salvation of all humanity, with this ‘something’ resulting in not everyone being saved but God’s overall purpose still being accomplished.

Some say option 1 is the right answer; those who feel, for example, that this world has gotten beyond God to keep things such as evil in check. However, the majority of Christians who affirm God’s sovereignty rule out option 1, leaving option 2 as the only other possibility.

If that’s true, then the question becomes: what is this thing that God desires more than the salvation of everyone?

The answer most give is that God values human free will and a potential love relationship more than saving all people via His efficacious grace. Laced throughout such replies is talk of self-determination, how God doesn’t create or want ‘robots’, and assertions that God would never force Himself on us.

However, there’s a critical problem with those answers – you will not find explicit Biblical support for them anywhere in Scripture.

The two verses highlighted most often as proof that God wants all saved provide no backing whatsoever for that line of reasoning, nor does the context that surrounds them. Instead, they only implicitly present us with the question as to why everyone isn’t saved and do not give us the answer to it or what God desires more than the salvation of all.

But what if…? What if there was another place in the Bible that brought to our attention the exact same dilemma (God wanting to save people, but they aren’t obtaining salvation), but did answer the question quite clearly as to why everyone is not being saved and stated what God wills more than the salvation of everyone?

All Israel isn’t being saved

In Romans, Paul tells his readers what pains him the most – the fact that his fellow Jews aren’t experiencing God’s salvation: “I am telling the truth in Christ, I am not lying, my conscience testifies with me in the Holy Spirit, that I have great sorrow and unceasing grief in my heart. For I could wish that I myself were accursed, separated from Christ for the sake of my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh, who are Israelites, to whom belongs the adoption as sons, and the glory and the covenants and the giving of the Law and the temple service and the promises, whose are the fathers, and from whom is the Christ according to the flesh, who is over all, God blessed forever. Amen” (Rom. 9:1-5).

The Apostle’s agony is compounded by the fact that, if such a thing is true, it means God has failed to keep His promises to Israel and that He has, in effect, failed and not achieved what He wants. This is the exact same quandary that implicitly arises from 1 Tim. 2:3-4 and 2 Pet. 3:9 but is not answered in those Pauline letters.

John Murray’s commentary on Romans articulates Paul’s text this way: “The question posed for the apostle is: how can the covenant promise of God be regarded as inviolate when the mass of those who belong to Israel . . . have remained in unbelief and come short of the covenant promises?”[2]

How Israel and we are being saved

Paul’s answer to the question is this: “But it is not as though the word of God has failed. For they are not all Israel who are descended from Israel” (Rom. 9:1–6).

Paul says it’s not that God doesn’t get what He wants – He does and is never thwarted. It’s that not all those who were born Jews will be saved.

But why aren’t all Jews being saved? Surely Paul will tell us it’s because they are using their free will to deny God’s gift of salvation and that’s why they aren’t experiencing saving faith through Christ, right?

In vv. 7-13, Paul instead uses the example of Isaac, Esau and Jacob to make his point. God chose Abraham, then Isaac not Ishmael, then Jacob and not Esau. Why? “So that God’s purpose according to His choice would stand, not because of works but because of Him who calls” (Rom. 9:11).

Instead of propounding a free will argument, Paul says that not everyone who comes from Abraham gets the same treatment from God. Before they were ever born, God made His choice of individuals. The idea that some have put forward that God is talking of nations in this passage and not individual people cannot hold up under serious exegetical scrutiny.[3]

As if anticipating the exact same response that people who reject election today give to the idea of God choosing some and not others for salvation, Paul proactively responds: “What shall we say then? There is no injustice with God, is there? May it never be!” (Rom. 9:14).

Paul’s question makes absolutely no sense if he believed in the free will argument of salvation. What is unjust about providing a way of salvation for all and letting everyone choose whether they will accept it or not? Answer: nothing.

Instead Paul’s conclusion regarding how a person is saved is summed up this way: “So then it does not depend on the man who wills [not your free will] or the man who runs [not what you do], but on God who has mercy” (Rom. 9:16). In other words, it’s not about human autonomy or works, but God’s grace directed towards those who he chooses (vs. 15) because He is the potter and His creation the clay (vv. 20-21).

So, by completing our verse in 1 Cor. that we started with earlier, we see those accepting God’s ‘foolish’ message of salvation being only those He calls: “Jews ask for signs and Greeks search for wisdom; but we preach Christ crucified, to Jews a stumbling block and to Gentiles foolishness but to those who are the called, both Jews and Greeks [notice it’s the same two groups as before], Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God” (1 Cor. 1:22-24, my emphasis).

On to the next key question

Now – what about the other key question we posed earlier: since everyone won’t be saved, what is it that God desires more than everyone’s salvation?

Paul provides the answer in the following way: “Who are you, O man, who answers back to God? The thing molded will not say to the molder, “Why did you make me like this,” will it? Or does not the potter have a right over the clay, to make from the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for common use? What if God, although willing to demonstrate His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction? And He did so to make known the riches of His glory upon vessels of mercy, which He prepared beforehand for glory, even us, whom He also called, not from among Jews only, but also from among Gentiles” (Rom. 9:20–24).

The answer Paul supplies is the same one given in Jonathan Edward’s book, The End for Which God Created the World. God’s passion for His glory takes priority over the salvation of everyone.

Paul presents two truths in Romans that cause many Christians to bristle. First, God gets 100% of the credit for your salvation, even down to you not choosing it yourself (see vs. 16 again). You’re not a Christian today because you’re smarter than unbelievers and figured things out, or because you’re humbler and recognize your sin where others don’t.

No, you’re a Christian today because God had mercy on you, opened your eyes and heart just like He did Lydia (Acts 16:14), which caused you to receive His gift of salvation. He gets all the glory; you get none (Eph. 2:8-9).

The second hard truth is that God gets glory when He showcases His justice and wrath in the same way He does when He distributes His mercy. Many think God is only glorified through the kindness He shows undeserving people, but Paul says in Romans that God also desires to put His justice on display with those He allows to continue in their chosen sin. He receives glory in this as well.

Daniel Fuller describes it like this: “To show the full range of his glory God prepares beforehand not only vessels of mercy but also vessels of wrath, in order that the riches of his glory in connection with the vessels of mercy might thereby become more clearly manifest.”[4]

All of us are born sinners and deserve God’s justice. By grace, God calls some “not from among Jews only, but also from among Gentiles” (Rom. 9:24) for salvation and receives glory for His mercy. Others He leaves in their chosen rebellion, and with these, He receives glory for His justice.

This is the answer, then, as to why everyone is not saved and what God desires more than everyone’s salvation. Nowhere in Romans or the rest of the Bible will you find explicit support for God valuing human free will over the salvation of people. But in Romans, you do find explicit text detailing what God desires most – His glory that comes from displaying both His mercy and justice on those He chooses.

[2] John Murray, The Epistle to the Romans (Grand Rapids: Eerdmans, 1997), pg. 18.

[3] John Piper says of the ‘nations’ interpretation: “The interpretation which tries to restrict this predestination or unconditional election to nations rather than individuals or to historical tasks rather than eternal destinies must ignore or distort the problem posed in Rom. 9:1-5, the individualism of 9:6b, the vocabulary and logical structure of 9:6b-8, the closely analogous texts elsewhere in Paul, and the implications of 9:14-23. The position is exegetically untenable.” John Piper, The Justification of God (Grand Rapids: Baker, 1993), pg. 73.

[4] Daniel Fuller, Unity of the Bible (Grand Rapids: Zondervan, 1992), pg. 446.

Robin Schumacher is a former software executive and Christian apologist who has written many apologetic articles, appeared on nationally syndicated radio programs, and presented at various apologetic events. He holds a Master's in Christian apologetics and a Ph.D. in New Testament.

“God’s passion for His glory takes priority over the salvation of everyone”

So God’s a narcissist who’s good with eternal damnation for anyone who doesn’t grovel to him/her/it?

Got it.

Maybe Mr. Grins can go back to selling used buffalo hides rather then peddling BS.

I’m not seeing the premise in the Bible. In fact, there is a guy up in the Himalayan mountains right now who will never hear the Gospel. There are millions like him, and have been billions more throughout history.

Not everyone is appointed for salvation.

Free Will and Irresistible Grace don’t match up. When Jesus told people to repent, he wasn’t making some repent while preventing others from doing so.

There really isn’t any big puzzle over why God doesn’t save everyone. He has chosen to give people a choice because he wants willing sons, not zombies. He’s made the offer but many CHOOSE to reject it.

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Romans 1:18-24

18The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.

21For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.

24Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

The answer is in G-d’s relationship with each person, beginning with Adam - he did not create an automaton, he gave humans free choice. While G-d desires that all humans choose G-d, He wants more only those that choose G-d. It is as basic as that.

G-d’s great plan/purpose in THAT? We should not propose/pretend to know the mind of G-d.

Actually you don’t get it. God is perfection, you and I are not perfection. His perfection means the imperfect cannot be in His presence. His glory is there whether we are with Him or not. Narcissist? Seriously? This is what you apply because you put God on a human level. Its your choice to do so but it does not change Who and What God is to us. His extension of grace to us is the gift of all gifts, a priceless and eternal one. If in arrogance we reject God’s gift we cannot be in His presence. He made a way, it cost Him His own Son’s life but His glory had His Son rising again. Its not hard to see the reason and the logic but it’s hardly narcissism.

There are not only two options.

Love is not love unless it’s freely given.

God does not force anyone into believing.

He could, but He doesn’t.

He has chosen to leave the final decision up to us.

free will vs determinism

free will

God did not put any of us on the planet to fail.

however, many do, through their choices.

He has chosen to give people a choice because he wants willing sons, not zombies. He’s made the offer but many CHOOSE to reject it.

If any one has the power to deny the will of God, they thwart the will of the Creator of the universe. Actual free will defeats both Gods' omniscience and his omnipotence. Arminianism is works righteousness heresy.

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