[Jan_Sobieski]

For the last 2000 years, the Jews have been living out Moses warning to them in Deuteronomy 28. Why? They rejected their messiah, the promised Prophet from Deuteronomy 18, and the blood atonement that He brought to them.

As Hosea said in verse 1:9, “You are not my people...”. This scripture was fulfilled when in rejecting Yeshua, they said “let his blood be on us and our children”. Only when the Jews acknowledge their great offense against their God (Hosea 5:15), will they fulfill The next verse In Hosea 1:10 and be called “the sons of the living God). Jesus Christ (Yeshua) will then come back from where he has returned to (Hosea 5:15) and deliver them.

Since the early 20th Century, they have been fulfilling Ezekiel 20:33-44. God is bringing them back to Israel, but not in Peace. This period of wrath will culminate with the revelation of the Antichrist and the Zechariah 14 destruction of Jerusalem. Only when the Jews, look upon Him whom they have pierced (Zechariah 12) and call upon Yeshua, will they be delivered

[Phinneous]

Yell well, that’s your opinion man.

https://youtu.be/pWdd6_ZxX8c

You’d think the Jews don’t have answers for it all in those 2K years right? Let me ask you— when G-d says “Forever” how short is it? Eternal nation. Here’s a primer for you—

https://youtu.be/rcWXDZdoxcQ

[Cronos]

Panie Janie, I disagree with you.

Firstly, "the Jews" -- you're using a blanket term for now and then. In the 1st century, Jesus and ALL His disciples were 2nd temple Jews. He started His sect of 2nd temple Judaism and was in contention with the Pharisee Jews.

But Jesus came in to Jerusalem and was widely acclaimed. May believed - and these were "Jews". This continued even through the GREAT TRIBULATION (from about 64 Ad to 67 AD) when the Pharisees, the Sadducees AND the Roman authorities all turned on this Jesus-movement-Jewish sect.

A large chunk of "Jews" accepted their Messiah. Some didn't - and they were the Pharisee-Jews. These reinvented their religion in 70 AD, even editing out the texts that the Jesus-movement-Jews used as proof.

Hosea 1:10 talks about the gentiles grafted ON

The entire book of Genesis reads as

1. A family - Adam's, then expanding, but falling away from God until the flood
2. Then Noah again, a family, but falling away from God until Abraham
3. A family again - Abraham, then Isaac, then Jacob
4. Then a clan
5. Then a tribe
6. then a nation
7. The nation fails and part of it falls
8. But then the nation expands - as Daniel saw, a mountain then covers the earth

Christianity is Jesus-movement-Judaism, as "salvation comes (or rather came) from the Jews" -- the story of salvation spread to the entire world through Jesus

Jesus clearly states that God is One, and that He and God are One

He clearly in His parables talks about How the chosen people rejected Him over and over and that this is now a wider plan of salvation

Ezekiel 20: 34And I will bring you out from the people, and I will gather you out of the countries, in which you are scattered, I will reign over you with a strong hand, and with a stretched out arm, and with fury poured out was written just before the exile to bAbylon

It talks about the gathering back AFTER the babylonian exile

The Zechariah 14 destruction of Jerusalem is seen in

THIS was the destruction that Zechariah wrote about

And many 2nd temple Jews called upon Yeshua and they were delivered

The Jesus-movement-Jewish sect was still heavily dominated by ethnic Jews