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To: Jan_Sobieski; pastorbillrandles

Jan there is not one of your proof texts, “Old” or New Testament, that isn’t addressed by Judaism. I could write original pieces— and hats off to the Pastor for taking the time to do so— but the Jews have had the answers forever.

google — “zechariah 12, pierced, tovia singer” or “jews for judaism ____________ [insert verse, OT or NT]”
Or “Why does the talmud let jews be pedophiles?” ALL of the questions have been answered.

Ain’t nothing like the Old thing, baby. (it’s the REAL thing)


16 posted on 10/16/2020 10:35:34 AM PDT by Phinneous (By the way, there are Seven Laws for you too! Noahide.org)
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To: Phinneous

No, very sorry to say that you’re truly missing out on what God has given us through Christ. From what I read, Jews just completely stay away from the New Testament and would be hard-pressed to even say who Joseph and Mary are. And it’s because the evidence for Jesus is so convincing that many would believe in Christ. That’s also why Christian programming is kept from Israeli TV.

Moses will spiritually lead you out of this world, Egypt, and as far as the Promised Land, but he doesn’t and can’t take you across the Jordan and into it. Yeshua does.


20 posted on 10/17/2020 12:22:44 PM PDT by Faith Presses On (Above all, politics should serve the Great Commission, "preparing the way for the Lord.")
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To: Phinneous; pastorbillrandles; Jan_Sobieski
phinneous but the Jews have had the answers forever.

With due respect, Phinneous - these are "Pharisee derived Jews" to be precise and also "the answers forever" are "the answers by looking at our texts alone" -- the council of Jamnia in 70 AD rejected the Septuagint even though that was the primary text of 2nd temple Judaism, precisely because the Jesus-movement Jews were using it to get people to their sect rather than the Pharisee sect

So no, you haven't "had the answers forever"

That reminds me of a discussion I had with a believing Hanafi school Sunni Muslim who said that exact same phrase "The Muslims have had the answers forever" - and then he went on to tell me what Muslims think Christians believe (they had a nice little booklet in Arabic with Urdu and English translation saying "Christians believe in 3 gods: God, Jesus and Mary" and then quotes from Isa in the Quran - btw. this "Isa" bloke in the Quran is purportedly Jesus but says and does things not in the gospels!)

Anyway, so you have your perception of what we believe (and no doubt it is the other way as well) - but you don't "have the answers forever" - or else the argument would have been over

and "the Old Thing" -- well the OT is not necessarily "the ONLY Real thing"

34 posted on 10/20/2020 6:57:59 AM PDT by Cronos
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