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What Caused The Jewish Exile? ...Noahide error
https://billrandles.wordpress.com/2020/10/16/what-happened-to-cause-the-exile-noahide-error/ ^ | 10-16-20 | Bill Randles

Posted on 10/16/2020 3:50:29 PM PDT by pastorbillrandles

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To: pastorbillrandles

They were still there in Acts 15 for the counsel in Jerusalem.


21 posted on 10/17/2020 9:10:30 AM PDT by impactplayer
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To: pastorbillrandles
For your edification:

There was an Israeli state in the land of Israel 2000 years before the evil prophet of Islam allegedly flying on a "magical horse" from Mecca to Jerusalem.


22 posted on 10/17/2020 11:23:56 AM PDT by SkyDancer (~ Pilots: Looking Down On People Since 1903 ~)
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To: D Rider; Aut Pax Aut Bellum

If I recall correctly, he himself said that nothing might happen. He also never made a prediction, against what Scripture says, that the Lord would return on such-and-such a date.

I believe the Lord has revealed things to and through him, including the message that He was sending through 9/11 as it connects to Isaiah 9. His identification of the Clintons as Ahab and Jezebel figures has always seemed the truth.


23 posted on 10/17/2020 12:16:24 PM PDT by Faith Presses On (Above all, politics should serve the Great Commission, "preparing the way for the Lord.")
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To: Faith Presses On

You are correct. It’s just that there have been numerous attacks and deliberate misquotes about what he said, I just didn’t feel like getting into that, as most of those already have thier minds made up.


24 posted on 10/17/2020 12:31:48 PM PDT by D Rider
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To: SkyDancer

All of that is well and good, but the Nation of Israel was still sent into exile from the Land of Israel for 2000 years. For those who believe in God’s covenant with Israel this must have been done by the will of God. Going back to the question posed by the article, why?


25 posted on 10/17/2020 12:49:59 PM PDT by Petrosius
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To: impactplayer

Lol...you got stones

Man Protestants today got serious chosen people envy

I didn’t grow up with all that

The pre Hagee era

We didn’t wish them harm especially so close to Final Solution time

But we also knew wha time it was


26 posted on 10/17/2020 12:52:49 PM PDT by wardaddy (I applaud Jim Robinson for his comments on the Southern Monuments decision ...thank you run the tra)
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To: JesusIsLord
The bottom line regarding today's orthodox religious Jews is that they have the same Christ rejecting spirit and mindset of the Pharasees (and Sadducees if you will) of the 1st century .

So much is wrong with what you posted, not the least of which is the thinly veiled anti-Semitism.

There are many Orthodox Jew in Israel that secretly believe that Jesus is Messiah so your comment is slanderous to them, as well as to Religious Jews everywhere - if you want to understand why do a little research on how the Nazis used Martin Luther's work "Against the Jews" as justification for murdering Jews ("Jews rejected Jesus! Let's kill them!").

As for Pharisees, you need to take it up with Paul, the Pharisee:

"My manner of life from my youth, spent from the beginning among my own nation and in Jerusalem, is known by all the Jews. They have known for a long time, if they are willing to testify, that according to the strictest party of our religion I have lived as a Pharisee..." Acts 26:4-5
27 posted on 10/17/2020 1:26:40 PM PDT by safisoft
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To: JesusIsLord
The Sanhedrin agreeing with Caiphis condemned Jesus to death.

All four Gospels record the meetings in Annas' and Caiaphas' home. Neither was the Nasi (President) of the Sanhedrin. While the Gospels do mention a group - no where is the word "Sanhedrin" used. In fact, as all Biblical scholars know, while the men may have been some of the men of the Sanhedrin, it was not the Sanhedrin.

During the Second Temple Period, the Sanhedrin was not permitted to meet anywhere except in the Hall of Hewn Stones of the Temple - and only in daylight hours.

So, no, the Sanhedrin did not condemn Jesus to death - Pilate and Herod were the only ones who could. Besides, no vote was recorded, and the witnesses did not agree so even if it had been in daylight hours, in the Hall of Hewn Stone, with all 70 members and the Nasi presiding, a death sentence could not be made even if Rome permitted it.
28 posted on 10/17/2020 1:41:06 PM PDT by safisoft
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To: pastorbillrandles

Strike one: Israel rejected God the Father when they ALLOWED the death of John the Baptist. Who preached the Kingdom and who recognized and preached Jesus as the Messiah when after His baptism by John, God announced “THIS IS MY SON. IN WHOM I AM WELL PLEASED.” Rejecting that message was rejecting God the Father.

Strike two: Israel rejected Christ and His earthly ministry. They DEMANDED His death. They rejected God the Son. That was Strike two.

Strike three: Israel rejected God the Holy Spirit at Pentecost. They were offered the Kingdom and promised Christ’s return if they would repent and be baptized, at which point they would receive the Holy Spirit.
They would not and their wrath against the believers grew worse and worse, until they actually KILLED Stephen THEMSELVES. Strike three. The Book of Acts is the fall of Israel because of their unbelief. And the beginning of the time of the Gentiles. Which is what Romans through Philemon are all about: what God was doing once He blinded Israel and set them aside because is their unbelief.

Their blindness will be taken away when the times of the Gentiles is complete, the Body of Christ is complete and is raptured. At which time God once again turns His eyes back to Israel and all prophecies are fulfilled: the tribulation and Second Coming and the Millennial Kingdom established.


29 posted on 10/17/2020 1:51:35 PM PDT by smvoice (I WILL NOT WEAR THE RIBBON.)
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To: smvoice

One more thing: The three strikes and you’re out: 1. The Father. 2. The Son. 3. The Holy Spirit.
When they rejected the Holy Spirit there remained no other way to be saved. This is why Jesus said that all manner of sin would be forgiven except speaking against the Holy Spirit, which would not be forgiven in this world nor the world to come. Because there was no remedy left. Strike three you’re out.


30 posted on 10/17/2020 2:02:15 PM PDT by smvoice (I WILL NOT WEAR THE RIBBON.)
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To: wardaddy

Final solution time was 67-70AD - with the destruction of the temple and all sacrificial worship. We (gentiles) were grafted into the faithful remnant of Jews who had accepted Messiah. It really is that simple.


31 posted on 10/17/2020 2:05:49 PM PDT by impactplayer
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To: pastorbillrandles

God’s best was not “good enough” for them. Jesus did not intend to come and merely save them from the current oppressors, or to “make all their dreams come true”. He has a purpose for His people and they resisted God at every turn, but for the faithful few that are spoken of in Scripture. God punished them, just as Moses warned, and they rejected the true prophets God sent to warn them. When they wouldn’t even accept the testimony of His own Son, you can tie this to the parable of the landowner who planted a vineyard and left it in charge of tenants who rented it. When it came time to collect the earnings from his vineyard, he sent men to collect. The wicked tenants beat one, killed one and stoned one, after which he sent his son, thinking they’d respect him, but they did not. They killed him, also, thinking they’d get his inheritance. This was a mirror of what was to come shortly thereafter, when the Jews rejected Jesus.

Jesus warned that the kingdom of God would be taken away & given to others who will produce fruit. Jesus tells the people with this parable that he who falls on this stone (Jesus, himself) will be broken to pieces, but he on whom it falls with be crushed. This generation rejected His Son and had the Son killed, but this was God’s doing so that not only would the nation of Israel eventually be saved, but some people from every nation, tongue & people. God temporarily evicted His people from the “land”, seeming to annul the the contract with Abraham, but what many scholars seem to forget is that Abraham was not a participant in that contract. God put him into a deep sleep. God’s contract with Abraham was not able to be broken bu man, although the promises of punishment for disobedience and devotion to Him would bring consequences of being deposed of the land until they called out and sought Him in earnest. God will restore them when they do that, and when He restores them we will gain much from this, as Paul told the believers in his day who thought as many do today that God is finished with Israel.


32 posted on 10/17/2020 3:17:34 PM PDT by Shery (Pray for righteousness to be restored and for the peace of Jerusalem.)
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To: pastorbillrandles

Basically, the generation of Jesus’ day stumbled over the Stone-Jesus. Those who were believers got out because of the persecution of the believers, whether they be Jewish believers or Gentile. This was before AD 70.


33 posted on 10/17/2020 3:24:57 PM PDT by Shery (Pray for righteousness to be restored and for the peace of Jerusalem.)
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To: pastorbillrandles

“I know, I know. We are Your chosen people. But, once in a while, can’t You choose someone else?” Tevye


34 posted on 10/17/2020 3:29:55 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: SkyDancer
For the children of Israel shall abide many days without a king, and without a prince, and without a sacrifice, and without an image, and without an ephod, and without teraphim: Afterward shall the children of Israel return, and seek the LORD their God, and David their king; and shall fear the LORD and his goodness in the latter days. I don't know your point Skydancer, but if you are trying to deny the simple fact that Godexiled Israel for almost two thousand years, and that there wasn't a nation of Israel for those years, no Government, No Leader, no national Sovereignty, national flag... You are wrong. This has nothing dot do with the "Palestinians" whom we both would agree are interlopers. It has to do with the dealings of the God of Israel.
35 posted on 10/17/2020 3:58:32 PM PDT by pastorbillrandles (ore and rebuild Jerusale)
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To: safisoft
So much is wrong with what you posted, not the least of which is the thinly veiled anti-Semitism.

I won't pander to your political correctness. I spoke the truth. You accusing me of thinly veiled anti-Semitism is something the anti-Defamation League or Uncle Leo would say - but it's a damned lie!

There are many Orthodox Jew in Israel that secretly believe that Jesus is Messiah so your comment is slanderous to them, as well as to Religious Jews everywhere - if you want to understand why do a little research on how the Nazis used Martin Luther's work ...

As I mentioned in my post, Nicodemus was a Pharasee who was a believer. I don't need you to tell me that there is a diffeence between anti-Christ Orthodox Jews and Messianic Jews!

As for Pharisees, you need to take it up with Paul, the Pharisee

No, I don't! Paul is my favorite preacher/teacher rabbi if you will. Yes, I know he was raised a Pharasee. He also understood that their is no salvation in the Law or Moses - there is no salvation in the practice of the Pharasees - there is no salvation in the practice of the Sadducees. Anti not only means "against" it also means "in place of". There is no salvation, justification, holiness, redemption - in Orthodox Judaism or any other religion.

The Pharasees and Sadducees hated Jesus because He told them the truth. If I'm hated for speaking the truth - then like Jesus, Paul and others who were hated by anti-Christ Pharasees and Sadducees (anti-Christ Orthodox Jews) - I'm in good company!

36 posted on 10/17/2020 4:59:41 PM PDT by JesusIsLord
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To: JesusIsLord
Yes, I know he was raised a Pharasee. He also understood that their is no salvation in the Law or Moses - there is no salvation in the practice of the Pharasees - there is no salvation in the practice of the Sadducees. Anti not only means "against" it also means "in place of". There is no salvation, justification, holiness, redemption - in Orthodox Judaism or any other religion.

Paul wasn’t speaking in past tense in Acts 26:5. He was giving his resume, just like he does again to the Jewish elders in Rome in Acts 28. Paul remained a Pharisee. Read Acts 21-22 SLOWLY.

With regard to salvation, you are projecting Reformation’s Protestant/Catholic polemics on Jews. Jews have NEVER believed that keeping the Law earns salvation. Jesus’ disciples did not switch religions with a formulaic mantra. Ask a Jew, in any era, how one has a place in the World to Come, and the answer you will get will get in simple language is by God’s gracious choice, and with faith.

As for Messianic Jews, that is not what I was referring to. There are many, many, practicing Orthodox Jews who secretly believe Jesus is Messiah. They aren’t “Christians” and they aren’t “Messianic Jews” they are Orthodox Jews, and would claim the Prushin (Pharisees) as their forefathers - so I guess you would hate these brothers and sisters like “the Pharisees” because you can’t read the Bible outside your perverted perspective on God’s chosen people.
37 posted on 10/17/2020 5:37:47 PM PDT by safisoft
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To: safisoft
So, no, the Sanhedrin did not condemn Jesus to death - Pilate and Herod were the only ones who could.

It's true that only Pilate could sentence Jesus to death but it's equally true that the Sanhedrin condemned Him to death, the latter of which holds the greater sin.

"Then Pilate said to Him, “Are You not speaking to me? Do You not know that I have power to crucify You, and power to release You?” Jesus answered, “You could have no power at all against Me unless it had been given you from above. Therefore the one who delivered me to you has the greater sin.” John 19:10-11

"Those who had arrested Jesus took him to Caiaphas the high priest, where the teachers of the law and the elders had assembled. The chief priests and the WHOLE SANHEDRIN were looking for false evidence against Jesus so that they could put him to death. (snip).... The high priest said to him, “I charge you under oath by the living God: Tell us if you are the Messiah, the Son of God.” “You have said so,” Jesus replied. “But I say to all of you: From now on you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Mighty One and coming on the clouds of heaven.” Then the high priest tore his clothes and said, “He has spoken blasphemy! Why do WE need any more witnesses? Look, now you have heard the blasphemy. What do you think?” “HE IS WORTHY OF DEATH,” .... - Matthew 26:59-68........"When the morning was come, ALL THE CHIEF PRIEST AND ELDERS of the people took counsel against Jesus to put him to death" - Matthew 27:1

38 posted on 10/17/2020 5:48:09 PM PDT by JesusIsLord
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To: safisoft
so I guess you would hate these brothers and sisters like “the Pharisees” because you can’t read the Bible outside your perverted perspective on God’s chosen people.

You are a liar!

39 posted on 10/17/2020 5:59:51 PM PDT by JesusIsLord
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To: safisoft
so I guess you would hate these brothers and sisters like “the Pharisees” because you can’t read the Bible outside your perverted perspective on God’s chosen people.

You are a liar!

40 posted on 10/17/2020 5:59:51 PM PDT by JesusIsLord
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