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UMC advises churches to end charters with Boy Scouts amid sex abuse lawsuit settlement
Christian Post ^ | 08/30/2021 | Michael Gryboski

Posted on 08/30/2021 10:51:50 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

The United Methodist Church, a denomination that sponsors thousands of Boy Scout troops, recently told congregations to consider ending or altering their current agreements with the Boy Scouts of America as the embattled scouting organization settles a major sex abuse lawsuit.

The UMC’s Office of Public Information released a statement last week explaining that the mainline Protestant denomination had a long history with the BSA, dating back for more than a century.

Church leadership cited the recent BSA lawsuit filed by thousands of victims of sexual abuse. Earlier this year, BSA reached a settlement with a proposed payout of over $850 million to thousands of victims of sexual abuse. UMC fears that the BSA's bankruptcy and financial hit might eventually negatively impact UMC congregations that sponsor Boy Scout troops.

“Questions remain about how that agreement might affect chartered organizations, including thousands of United Methodist congregations that have sponsored scouting programs,” explained the UMC.

“The interests of those congregations are represented by an ad hoc committee established to represent United Methodist interests, which is actively engaged in the bankruptcy process and related negotiations.”

The UMC noted that the BSA “did not include its sponsoring organizations, charter groups, in the agreement with the claimants,” thus leaving “as many as 5,000 United Methodist U.S. congregations — or more than 15 percent of U.S. congregations — exposed to potential lawsuits by the survivor claimants.”

As a result, the UMC ad hoc committee recommended that congregations with scout troops “agree to extend an expiring charter through December 31, rather than renew that charter,” “replace an expiring charter with a facilities use agreement that expires on December 31,” or “terminate an existing charter and replace it with a facilities use agreement that expires on December 31.”

“All of those options allow more time to see how the bankruptcy will impact United Methodist congregations,” stated the UMC office, adding that the denomination “grieve[s] for those who experienced harm.”

Over 80,000 claims were made from 1940 through 2018 by the court-established deadline. According to the UMC statement, some of those claims are potentially connected to scouting units sponsored by UMC churches. The BSA has seen fewer sexual abuse cases since implementing its current program aimed at ensuring the safety of children. UMC maintains that the percentage of claims related to UMC-sponsored scouting units is "proportionately lower than that of other chartered units."

“This tragedy is a reminder for all of us to be vigilant, update Safe Sanctuary policies and continue to review those policies to ensure congregations are following the policies and keeping all young people safe from harm," Bishop Cynthia Fierro Harvey said in the statement.

In July, the BSA reached a settlement agreement with approximately 60,000 victims of sexual abuse that some experts believed might involve compensation well above $1 billion.

"It is important that people see this dollar amount, and know this is not the end; this is just the beginning," said Jordan Merson, an attorney helping to represent the victims, in an interview with USA Today. "There are billions of dollars in insurance money, and the fight to get that money is continuing."

At the end of 2019, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, previously the religious group that sponsored the largest number of BSA troops, cut its ties with the scouting organization.

In a joint statement with the BSA in 2018, the denomination said that the decision to halt the relationship was related to a decision by LDS Church leadership to “create and implement a uniform youth leadership and development program that serves its members globally.”


TOPICS: Mainline Protestant; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: boyscouts; genderdysphoria; homosexualagenda; sexabuse; umc; unitedmethodist; unitedmethodists; wesleyans
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1 posted on 08/30/2021 10:51:50 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Boy Scouts are dead to me. So sad. So many great memories. Three Eagle Scouts.


2 posted on 08/30/2021 10:54:46 AM PDT by FatherofFive (We support Trump. Not the GOP)
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To: SeekAndFind
They are on about sex abuse now, but weren't they OK with the gay scoutmasters thing?

The big religious divide in this century is between sodomy and non-sodomy.

3 posted on 08/30/2021 10:55:37 AM PDT by Salman (It's not a "slippery slope" if it was part of the program all along. )
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To: SeekAndFind

Let’s see, we have to end unjust discrimination against gay scout masters who, after all, are just the same as the rest of us, only different.

Then, once we have failed to notice that pederasty is the mainstay of the gay subculture and we have allowed our young people to become tender prey of

I’m your wicked Uncle Earnie,
I’m glad you won’t hear or see me as I
fiddle all about, fiddle all about,
fiddle about.

You won’t shout as I fiddle about
fiddle all about, fiddle all about,
fiddle about.


4 posted on 08/30/2021 10:56:29 AM PDT by CharlesOConnell (CharlesOConnell)
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To: SeekAndFind

PC, Diversity, LGBT killed the Boy scouts, all predictable.


5 posted on 08/30/2021 10:57:12 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (Let's make crime illegal again!)
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To: SeekAndFind

The left set this whole thing up with their “gays in the Boy Scouts” push. That push was for gay, pedophile scout leaders.


6 posted on 08/30/2021 10:57:20 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: SeekAndFind
This tragedy

This church is totally useless.

Child molestation is not a tragedy.

It is raw evil.

If a church does not know the difference, then they are a part of the problem and not part of the solution.
7 posted on 08/30/2021 10:57:57 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: FatherofFive

Wow. I never made it to Eagle but did learn a lot and it’s surely a loss to society. Ironically the Methodist church sponsored my scout troop and years later I ended up quitting because the local minister couldn’t keep his hands off the help and they had to fork over a big sex harrassment settlement. Liberal churches are the worst.


8 posted on 08/30/2021 11:01:10 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: SeekAndFind

Crying shame. Scouts BSA is ded, dead.


9 posted on 08/30/2021 11:02:37 AM PDT by vpintheak (Live free, or die!)
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To: MtnClimber
That push was for gay, pedophile scout leaders.

Am I being paranoid to think the real push was to get rid of the Boy Scouts altogether?

10 posted on 08/30/2021 11:05:24 AM PDT by Salman (It's not a "slippery slope" if it was part of the program all along. )
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To: SeekAndFind

I applaud their stance on the BSA, but doesn’t the church support abortions?


11 posted on 08/30/2021 11:07:01 AM PDT by peggybac (My will is what I wanted. God's will is what I got.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Wow, now even the United Methodist Church won't touch them. The fools at the national BSA thought catering to the Left would work, they tried growing their ranks with girls, then they thought they could buy their way out.

Goodbye, Boy Scouts of America.

12 posted on 08/30/2021 11:07:43 AM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: SeekAndFind
The irony is that a large (largest?) faction of the UMC has been at the forefront of lesbo/homo promotion, Rainbow Flags galore! Female (lesbo?) "ministers", short on Gospel and long on trendy signifying.

In rural areas, the UMC churches are not as affected, but still not unheard of. John Wesley is spinning in this grave.

13 posted on 08/30/2021 11:11:11 AM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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To: SeekAndFind

sew the wind and reap the whirlwind.

it was churches, parents and scouts who accepted the “great divorce” of the Scouts from God.


14 posted on 08/30/2021 11:15:18 AM PDT by dadfly
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To: FatherofFive
My dad and I are both Eagle Scouts. It was a great organization in the 40s and early 70s for both of us. My middle son joined a troop sponsored by the local Roman Catholic church. Parents were actively involved. My middle son earned First Class before the first court of honor occurred subsequent to his joining. The scoutmaster said he should "slow down and mature". My son said, piss off. He had enough going with the band, multiple AP classes including tutoring other AP students. He finished with a 4.33 GPA, then off to the USMC and Kuwait. On return, he earned a BA in Business Administration and Physics. He had the ability to make Eagle, but his troop wanted to put the brakes on.

The LDS church dropped the scouts as the official "program" for the young men. That was a huge gutting of the BSA organization. It appears more orgs are doing that. As parents, we just have to find a replacement for the skills and experiences that the BSA once offered.

15 posted on 08/30/2021 11:52:34 AM PDT by Myrddin
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My dad and I are both Eagle Scouts.

My first experience with Scouting was when I brought my son to join Cub Scouts after a move to Florida. I became Assistant Cubmaster that night, and the Cubmaster announced this was his last year. I took the pack from 22 to 85 cubs in 2 years. Had a Blast, and so did all the parents.

The cleaning lady at our Church had a grandson, she cared for him because both parents were in prison for drugs and murder. Our Pack 'adopted' him. He became an Eagle, and went on to attend the University of Florida.

One of so many great experiences with Scouting before they abandoned God and Country.

16 posted on 08/30/2021 12:11:52 PM PDT by FatherofFive (We support Trump. Not the GOP)
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To: SeekAndFind

The first United fag church to which I once belonged doesn’t want to be associated with fags on trial.


17 posted on 08/30/2021 12:51:53 PM PDT by NWFree (Somebody has to say it)
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To: FatherofFive

I’m still keeping the three sharpshooter medals I won with a .22 in scout camp decades ago.


18 posted on 08/30/2021 12:53:41 PM PDT by NWFree (Somebody has to say it)
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To: Salman

You are absolutely correct.


19 posted on 08/30/2021 1:01:55 PM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: NWFree
I’m still keeping the three sharpshooter medals I won with a .22 in scout camp decades ago.

When I moved to Oklahoma, one of our Cub Scouts moved on to Boy Scouts. The first time he fired a gun was at Boy Scout camp

"At 14 years old, Jon Michael won the NSSA Junior World Skeet Championship with a score of 397 out of 400 targets as a sub-junior. He has remained active with Boy Scouts and achieved the rank of Eagle Scout in 2009. He credits his competition travel for the knowledge he gained about the USA."

https://www.usashooting.org/12-the-team/usashootingteam/nationalteam/nationalshotgunteam/jonmichaelmcgrath

A great story

While attending his first Boy Scout summer camp at 11 years old, Jon Michael approached the shotgun range to ask if he could shoot clay targets with a shotgun. The Range Master helped him with his first shots and then recommended that Jon Michael pursue the shooting sports. An introduction to Skeeter Radke at Tulsa Gun Club led to improved scores and strengthened Jon Michael’s desire to compete. In 2010, at World Shooting Championships in Munich, Germany, he became the first American to win the World Championship Gold Medal in Men’s Junior Skeet. In 2008, Jon Michael became the youngest person at 16 years old, to win the USA Shooting National Championship for Men’s Skeet.

This is why I loved Scouting, and am so sad to see it gone.

20 posted on 08/30/2021 1:15:46 PM PDT by FatherofFive (We support Trump. Not the GOP)
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