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Prominent Christian Author Josh McDowell steps back from ministry after controversial remarks on black families
Christian Post ^ | 09/23/2021 | Michael Gryboski

Posted on 09/23/2021 6:20:04 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

Some comments from Bill Cosby in 2004:

“Let me tell you something, your dirty laundry gets out of school at 2:30 every day, it’s cursing and calling each other n——— as they’re walking up and down the street,” Cosby said during an appearance at the Rainbow/PUSH Coalition & Citizenship Education Fund’s annual conference.

“They think they’re hip,” the entertainer said. “They can’t read; they can’t write. They’re laughing and giggling, and they’re going nowhere.”

You’ve got to stop beating up your women because you can’t find a job, because you didn’t want to get an education and now you’re (earning) minimum wage,” Cosby said. “You should have thought more of yourself when you were in high school, when you had an opportunity.”

“I can’t even talk the way these people talk, ‘Why you ain’t,’ ‘Where you is’ ... and I blamed the kid until I heard the mother talk,” Cosby said then. “And then I heard the father talk ... Everybody knows it’s important to speak English except these knuckleheads. You can’t be a doctor with that kind of crap coming out of your mouth.”

“For me there is a time ... when we have to turn the mirror around,” he said. “Because for me it is almost analgesic to talk about what the white man is doing against us. And it keeps a person frozen in their seat, it keeps you frozen in your hole you’re sitting in.”


21 posted on 09/23/2021 6:57:38 PM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (The more I learn about people, the more I like my dog. )
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To: caww

I disagree. Never ease up on telling the truth however old you are, especially in a culture immersed in lies.


22 posted on 09/23/2021 6:59:27 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (DEFEAT THE COUP D'ETAT BY THE STALINAZI DERP STATE !)
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To: Angelino97
That's a pretty conciliatory statement. He even recognizes his "privilege." He's bending over backwards to please the Left.

Yet still, it's not enough.

It never is. It never will be. Unfortunately too many Christians simply will never learn they can't bargain with Satan.

23 posted on 09/23/2021 7:01:53 PM PDT by hopespringseternal
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To: Theo

Voddie has been treated the same way.


24 posted on 09/23/2021 7:04:09 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (RIP my "teddy bear". )
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To: fieldmarshaldj

I understand, but I wasn’t referring to telling the truth. Our commission is for a lifetime of course.


25 posted on 09/23/2021 7:06:14 PM PDT by caww ( )
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26 posted on 09/23/2021 7:09:40 PM PDT by caww ( )
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To: SkyDancer
"He’s telling the truth. Oh, I forgot, truth is not allowed since it’d be racist."

Telling the truth is racist.

27 posted on 09/23/2021 7:12:08 PM PDT by blam
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To: caww
He’s right.... but at 82 it’s about time to ease up on the floor pedal.

This reminds me of the passage in Ephesians 6:13; "and having done all, to stand." He needs to stand.

28 posted on 09/23/2021 7:14:04 PM PDT by aimhigh (THIS is His commandment . . . . 1 John 3:23)
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To: TallahasseeConservative

I’m being hammered by a bunch of people on a church for men Facebook group for daring to agree with Josh. McDowell.


29 posted on 09/23/2021 7:21:43 PM PDT by cyclotic (Live your life in such a way that they hate you as much as they hated Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Theo

A subculture? How about the main tenet of black culture?...


30 posted on 09/23/2021 7:25:11 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: SeekAndFind

Well, his problem was he spoke the truth.

I worked with an engineer (born with black skin), and he told me that growing up in Pittsburgh, he hung around with white kids, because they did better in school. He had an engineering degree and a mathematics degree. That is the truth, FRiends.


31 posted on 09/23/2021 7:28:23 PM PDT by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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To: TallahasseeConservative
"I do not believe blacks, African Americans, and many other minorities have equal opportunity. Why? Most of them grew up in families where there is not a big emphasis on education," stated McDowell at the weekend gathering.

They DO NOT value education, generally speaking. It's considered "White" to go to school, study and be smart. The peer pressure to not be "White" among school aged blacks is very high.

Nothing McDowell said was untrue. People are pissed because he told the TRUTH.

In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
---- George Orwell

32 posted on 09/23/2021 7:29:56 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: SeekAndFind

Unless the whole article says something much more damning, I don’t see anything wrong with what he said, except that he didn’t state that there are plenty of white people who had the same mindset as the minority families of which he spoke.


33 posted on 09/23/2021 8:15:18 PM PDT by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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To: Theo

BTW, he is a case in point. He was brought up by a violent alcoholic. So the advantages he was “brought up with”, did not include a functioning father, but perhaps his mother encouraged him.


34 posted on 09/23/2021 8:18:49 PM PDT by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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To: BenLurkin

I dislike Cosby’s sexual escapades, but he is right about the things he said about his own people. Too bad he’s not perfect like the rest of us...


35 posted on 09/23/2021 8:23:55 PM PDT by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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To: SeekAndFind

Cancel culture means canceling all truth. And what was said is far from racist.


36 posted on 09/23/2021 8:46:38 PM PDT by Revel
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To: SeekAndFind

Another pussy pastor. You said it, so own it and defend it. Conservatives always cave to “public opinion.” That’s why I loved Trump so much. His comments and tweets were like a breath of fresh air.


37 posted on 09/23/2021 8:48:31 PM PDT by Prince of Space (Irish lives matter!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Wow - I can see it’s only a matter of time before I get canceled at church. He should have said CRT is a millstone being tied around the necks of whites - …


38 posted on 09/23/2021 8:51:51 PM PDT by 11th_VA (Stolen elections have consequences.)
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KFI-AM's Bill Handel said the same thing about Latinos. He said Latino families don't value education.

The difference is, Latino families do value work. Handel said that many Latinos pull their kids out of school as soon as it's legal, and send them off to work.

At least, that's Handel's impression of all the immigrant Latino families here in Los Angeles. Education, advancement, is not on their radar. Just make enough money to support yourself and your family.

39 posted on 09/23/2021 8:59:14 PM PDT by Angelino97
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To: SeekAndFind

As truthful as saying Asians place greater emphasis on education that whites, but somehow not “controversial”


40 posted on 09/23/2021 9:24:15 PM PDT by montag813
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