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Good News Club (( prediction 2022 )) ! Will 2022 produce a worldwide revival ?
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Posted on 01/21/2022 11:57:42 PM PST by FRinCanada2

More of a question than a post:

It appears to me that 2022 (2 years after the great Public School “PLANDEMIC” shut down) is going to be the years parent regain control of our public school system!

I am very interested in the politics of religious based after school programs such as “Good News Club”.

The link I posted is intentionally ANTI “Good News Club” however I am personally very PRO Good News Club. As well as PRO any religious program being offered —- key words offered to students requiring parental consent of course.

The main point is that parents not the school board get to decide IF a child is to attend a religious based after school club. Period. Full stop.

Furthermore, it is the parents responsibility to review the curriculum being taught in the “Good News Club” or any other religious based club and decide if you desire to have your child participate or not.

I don’t believe it is helpful for any individual or organization to oppose a faith based club being held in a public school whether you agree with that curriculum or not.

Bottom line: parents who do not wish to have their kids in Good News Club should simply decline to sign the permission slip and not attempt to “shut them down”.

What say you ?


TOPICS: Activism; Evangelical Christian; Religion & Culture; Skeptics/Seekers
KEYWORDS: gnc; goodnewsclub; publicschool; r; spartansixdelta

1 posted on 01/21/2022 11:57:42 PM PST by FRinCanada2
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To: fgoodwin

Ping


2 posted on 01/22/2022 12:00:11 AM PST by FRinCanada2 (Have you seen ALL of Season 1 & 2 of The Chosen TV series ? Got the APP ?)
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To: FRinCanada2

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1685266/posts


3 posted on 01/22/2022 12:01:30 AM PST by FRinCanada2 (Have you seen ALL of Season 1 & 2 of The Chosen TV series ? Got the APP ?)
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To: FRinCanada2

A faith based club for school aged children will have zero impact on re-taking control of public schools. They might have some benefits but that is not one of them.

It would be no different than having a Bible study at a table in Starbucks, thinking that you were going to change how Starbucks is being run.

Children are best taught faith in the home or in church with the parents supporting. There are probably numerous ways of reaching out to children in unchurched families but reaching the parents first has a lot of advantages.

Changing the direction of public education requires citizens to become politically engaged on the local, state, and federal levels.


4 posted on 01/22/2022 12:59:00 AM PST by unlearner (Si vis pacem, para bellum. Let him who desires peace prepare for war.)
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To: unlearner

Having experienced personally the fruit of the Good News Club I must respectfully disagree with your conclusion.

There is much room for discussion on the broader topic but the numbers of children who have a deep personal relationship with Jesus Christ and who have brought their parent into that same relationship with God as a result of their parents allowing them to attend “Good News Club” which requires the parents to at least take a peek at the simple curriculum being taught is extremely powerful and staggering !!

We are not talking about deep theology teaching here. Just a very simple message.

1. God Loves You

2. God has an Amazing plan for your life

3. God Himself (Jesus Christ) paid the penalty of MY SIN (definition of sin. Anything I think, say or do that is not in accordance with God’s Will and plan for my life)

4. Simple Trust and Faith in Jesus Christ is all that is required to enter into that relationship. After that a lifetime of serving HIM in whatever role or capacity HE calls you is a separate sanctification process.


5 posted on 01/22/2022 1:27:48 AM PST by FRinCanada2 (Have you seen ALL of Season 1 & 2 of The Chosen TV series ? Got the APP ?)
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To: FRinCanada2

I’ve been on CEF staff several years and taught many lessons (though haven’t been involved lately). I’ve also recruited several others who have done the same. I’ve taught in schools, homes, and outdoors. I’m definitely not against Good News Clubs.

And perhaps a better answer to your question is more of following where God leads you and opens doors. However, my initial response is correct regarding the impact on public schools.

When Paul did outreach into a new area, he ordinarily started at the local synagogue. We also read about Mars Hill. We never see him operating out of an idol’s temple. But he did set up shop in the school of Tyrannus when his ministry was opposed in the synagogue in Ephesus (a town in modern day Turkey).

I don’t see a pattern in scripture of fighting to keep a speaking platform, but neither were opportunities to have a platform declined. Christ said to His disciples to flee to another city, whenever they were persecuted, and continue to preach.

The preaching and teaching of Christ and the apostles were directed primarily at adults. Children were reached in the process and were welcomed and included. They are important.

But you are not going to take back public schools by trying to fight legal battles to get these clubs approved by local school boards. Public schools are primarily governed at the state level. Compulsory school attendance exists in all 50 states and the main impact of federal laws and regulations is budget money.

Courts currently protect religious liberty of students to the extent faith-based clubs must be treated equally with secular ones. But you still have hostile districts that refuse to follow the law. And this is often because they know they will face expensive lawsuits whenever religion is introduced into the equation, even if they ultimately win the cases. That’s not to say such cases should not be fought. But some of these battles take years to resolve.

Public schools are not a place where adults can promote directly to children. In many cases, any faith based club would have to promote to parents in order to get permission, and school districts may or may not cooperate in getting this information to the parents. School districts are typically only going to allow such clubs to operate where there are already similar secular clubs. And this is primarily for legal reasons.

When you promote such clubs in other ways, you have a much better chance of reaching parents and children. But, like I said, go where doors open.


6 posted on 01/22/2022 7:37:12 AM PST by unlearner (Si vis pacem, para bellum. Let him who desires peace prepare for war.)
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To: unlearner

Certainly schools have an obligation to share with parents the availability of any “after school” activity or Club and provide parents with literature that describes the curriculum that is taught at that after school Club or activity. In fact it is my understanding that some good news clubs meeting before school not just after school this has the added benefit of allowing parents to drop their kids off at school early as well as pick them up late —. Much like many other pre- or post-school activities that parents must pay a participation fee. To my knowledge no Good News Clubs charge a participation fee as all the staff are volunteers correct?


7 posted on 01/22/2022 9:25:35 AM PST by FRinCanada2 (Have you seen ALL of Season 1 & 2 of The Chosen TV series ? Got the APP ?)
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To: FRinCanada2

I don’t have the knowledge or expertise to respond. If I come across information that’s relevant I will post it here.


8 posted on 01/22/2022 2:23:15 PM PST by unlearner (Si vis pacem, para bellum. Let him who desires peace prepare for war.)
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To: FRinCanada2; ConservativeMind; ealgeone; Mark17; BDParrish; fishtank; boatbums; Luircin; ...
"The main point is that parents not the school board get to decide IF a child is to attend a religious based after school club. Period. Full stop. "

Yes, but the org you reference wants to get school boards to decide a child cannot attend a religious based after school club, based upon its content:

"The Good News Club’s dark gospel, reinforced often enough, robs children of the innocence and enjoyment of childhood, replacing them with a negative self image, preoccupation with sin, fear of Hell, and aversion to critical thinking."

Which is a gross misrepresentation since instead, as increasing suicide rates attest, children deal with guilt, true and false guilt, much of which is due to what iniquity passes for childhood enjoyment plus WOKIism inducing false guilt because they ate meat, use a wrong personal pronoun, etc. And the Good New is that one can obtain a clear conscience and healthy lifestyle.

And what I not see this anti-good org not working against?

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after 25 years of claiming she was not indoctrinating anyone with pro-homosexual beliefs, one activist honestly admitted to this being a lie. Canadian lesbian activist S. Bear Bergman, a female who identifies as a gender-confused "male", stated, "All that time I said I wasn't indoctrinating anyone with my beliefs about gay and lesbian and bi and trans and queer people? That was a lie.” Bergman recounted that she was instructed as a young gay activist to tell concerned parents that she was “just providing an alternate viewpoint” when accused of engaging in “indoctrination and recruiting,” and to use “soft” language when speaking about homosexuality. In her article on the notoriously liberal web site, the Huffington Post, he went on to candidly confess that this indoctrination, "is absolutely my goal. I want to make your children like people like me and my family, even if that goes against the way you have interpreted the teachings of your religion." Bergman fantasized that in an ideal world he would have been "ushered into the world of queerness with care and tenderness by experienced homos" (akin to "camp counselors"), "and issued my leather jacket and my protest pins, my safer sex supplies..."
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9 posted on 01/22/2022 2:35:49 PM PST by daniel1212 ( Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save + be baptized + follow Him!)
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To: unlearner

Better yet, go to where doors are CLOSED!


10 posted on 01/22/2022 3:36:13 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: unlearner
Public schools are primarily governed at the state level.

whoever takes the kings gold...


The Department of Education is administered by the United States secretary of education. It has under 4,000 employees (2018)[1] and an annual budget of $68 billion (2016).[2] The 2019 Budget also supports $129.8 billion in new postsecondary grants, loans, and work-study assistance to help an estimated 11.5 million students and their families pay for college.[5]   
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_Education


 

 

Figure 2. State revenues for public elementary and secondary schools as a percentage of total public school revenues, by state: School year 2017–18
https://nces.ed.gov/programs/coe/figures/CMA/Figure_2_CMA-flat2.svg

† Not applicable.

NOTE: All 50 states and the District of Columbia are included in the U.S. average, even though the District of Columbia does not receive any state revenue. The District of Columbia and Hawaii have only one school district each; therefore, the distinction between state and local revenue sources is not comparable to other states. Categorizations are based on unrounded percentages. Excludes revenues for state education agencies.

SOURCE: U.S. Department of Education, National Center for Education Statistics, Common Core of Data (CCD), “National Public Education Financial Survey,” 2017–18. See Digest of Education Statistics 2020, table 235.20.

In school year 2017–18, the percentages of public school revenues coming from state sources were highest in Vermont and Hawaii4 (90 percent each) and lowest in New Hampshire (31 percent) and Missouri and Nebraska (32 percent each). The percentages of revenues coming from federal sources were highest in Alaska (16 percent) and South Dakota and Mississippi (14 percent each) and lowest in New Jersey, New York, and Connecticut (4 percent each). Among the 50 states, the percentages of revenues coming from local sources were highest in New Hampshire (63 percent) and Nebraska and Missouri (60 percent each) and lowest in Hawaii and Vermont (2 and 4 percent, respectively). In the District of Columbia, which does not receive any state revenue, 92 percent of all revenues were from local sources and the remaining 8 percent were from federal sources.


11 posted on 01/22/2022 3:49:23 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: FRinCanada2
Good News Club (( prediction 2022 )) ! Will 2022 produce a worldwide revival ?

I doubt it.

Just consider what the 'parents' tolerate anyway.

12 posted on 01/22/2022 3:50:46 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

For the past 2 years many schools have not been able to host “Good News” clubs - or any clubs for that matter — NOT having the Gospel Message presented has had an impact — and NOT a good one — I believe sincerely that 2022 will be “The YEAR of the unreached” — combine the efforts of the “Good News Clubs” for kids and “The Chosen - Season 3”... I really expect a major HARVEST of new Christians with a hunger for Jesus... any concurrence?


13 posted on 01/22/2022 6:38:39 PM PST by FRinCanada2 (Have you seen ALL of Season 1 & 2 of The Chosen TV series ? Got the APP ?)
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To: Elsie

One more federal agency that could stand to be abolished.


14 posted on 01/22/2022 9:15:25 PM PST by unlearner (Si vis pacem, para bellum. Let him who desires peace prepare for war.)
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To: Elsie; FRinCanada2

“Better yet, go to where doors are CLOSED!”

The concept of taking the Gospel where God opens doors is straight out of the Bible:

Matthew 10:14, 23 (NKJV)
And whoever will not receive you nor hear your words, when you depart from that house or city, shake off the dust from your feet…
When they persecute you in this city, flee to another. For assuredly, I say to you, you will not have gone through the cities of Israel before the Son of Man comes.

Acts 16:6 (NKJV)
Now when they had gone through Phrygia and the region of Galatia, they were forbidden by the Holy Spirit to preach the word in Asia.

Acts 19:8-10 (NKJV)
And he went into the synagogue and spoke boldly for three months, reasoning and persuading concerning the things of the kingdom of God. But when some were hardened and did not believe, but spoke evil of the Way before the multitude, he departed from them and withdrew the disciples, reasoning daily in the school of Tyrannus. And this continued for two years, so that all who dwelt in Asia heard the word of the Lord Jesus, both Jews and Greeks.

1 Corinthians 16:9 (NKJV)
For a great and effective door has opened to me, and there are many adversaries.

2 Corinthians 2:12 (NKJV)
Furthermore, when I came to Troas to preach Christ’s gospel… a door was opened to me by the Lord.

Revelation 3:8 (NKJV)
I know your works. See, I have set before you an open door, and no one can shut it; for you have a little strength, have kept My word, and have not denied My name.


15 posted on 01/22/2022 9:32:35 PM PST by unlearner (Si vis pacem, para bellum. Let him who desires peace prepare for war.)
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To: FRinCanada2

Well; I’m quite sure that it was my daughter praying for her mom and dad when she was in school that finally got us back on the right path.


16 posted on 01/23/2022 4:46:01 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: unlearner
The concept of taking the Gospel where God opens doors is straight out of the Bible:

This is absolutely true.

But then again, so is this...



17 posted on 01/23/2022 4:49:03 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

:)


18 posted on 02/02/2022 10:38:57 AM PST by FRinCanada2 (Have you seen ALL of Season 1 & 2 of The Chosen TV series ? Got the APP ?)
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