Posted on 06/27/2022 8:21:31 PM PDT by Morgana
While conservative evangelical and Catholic churches across America celebrated Friday’s Supreme Court ruling rescinding a federal right to abortion care, sermons and prayers in other congregations ranged from lament to outrage to calls for simply getting along with each other.
Sunday, June 26, turned out to be one of those rare occasions when the connection between faith and politics could not be avoided.
Tim Schaefer
“I am put in a position to address things that concern the people, the congregation, and sometimes those issues are difficult to address. They’re not easy, especially when we may not all agree. But I think it’s important that we not shy away from difficult conversations, that we are honest with one another and we have dialogue,” Tim Schaefer, pastor of First Baptist Church of Madison, Wisc., said in comments before the pastoral prayer. “I know some of you may be lamenting, some of you may be celebrating the Supreme Court decision this week.”
However, “our Baptist faith is rooted very deeply in a couple of traditions, the first being the separation of church and state,” he added. “We believe no single religious belief or interpretation of Scripture should be used by the government to dictate practices on everybody else. … I think this ruling, which is not based in science, which is based on a single interpretation of Scriptures, should trouble us all.”
Baptists also believe in freedom, Schaefer said, “including the freedom of everybody to define their relationship with their Maker, their Creator, and for each of us to interpret Scripture. We don’t all agree, but I think we can all support the right of women and not just cisgender women but also those in the transgender or gender-nonconforming community, to make their own decisions based on their own faith...
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I thought the Baptists were super conservative.
Simply further proof that no matter the Christian denomination, Christianity is filled with fake Christians.
Accordingly, Jesus, as with many biblical figures warned and forewarned of this.......
They used to be. More so the Southern Baptists. Now anymore a lot of them drank the liberal kool aid.
so many churches are now lefty country clubs with Bibles-they are good Democrats
Relativism. Be vomited.
If any clergy person of any denomination tells you it’s fine to murder a baby in or out of the womb, run like hell. He or she is demonic. This isn’t a hard call.
Good luck making this case in front of the ultimate judge pastor.
I would be infinitely more troubled if my pastor displayed such a shocking ignorance of the facts of this case and the grounds upon which the ruling was made (which had nothing to do with the interpretation of Scripture). I would seriously call into question his educational level and common sense.
In our church, instead of the normal introduction to the service, we had a prayer of thanksgiving for God’s answering the persistent prayers of His People to overturn Roe.
He’s homosexual
From what I see in the article, Christianity is full of ‘fake preachers’, not necessarily fake Christians.
We’ve always had fake Christians; but that’s different from the hierarchies of churches going this political.
I guess they’re worried about the collection basket...
In our white bread suburban-Chicago Catholic church, there are no mention at all from the pulpit... certainly no celebration.
“I thought the Baptists were super conservative.”
There is more than one Baptist denomination and they are definitely not interchangeable.
In fact you would think that everyone would be pro-life. The idea that you can kill a helpless innocent for any reason and walk away whistling is rather abhorrent.
Which is why throughout the entire history of the human race we have the perpetrators of such coming to a nasty end.
Perhaps the oldest written story is the Iliad where Agamemnon kills his helpless and innocent daughter Iphigenia and, in the Odyssey, his wife Clytemnestra kills him in retaliation.
Really the question is not how someone can be pro-life but how any rational person could support cold blooded murder.
I suspect that there have been many, many women who have secretly practiced abortion throughout human history, using herbal means - going back to the very ancient times that you reference.
(Not making a moral judgment, just saying.)
My Pastor said (not actual words; paraphrasing) “Don’t spike the ball”.
Take the story of Atalanta for example.
There are any number of ways to cause a miscarriage or "to bring on menses" and most women knew it. They had to. If you were foraging you needed to know which plants you as a pregnant women should not eat. And up until the 1900s most people outside of the big city did at least some foraging.
Like you I’m seeing Baptists are not how I imagined them from what I knew growing up. Having been baptized Episcopalian before my family left that church (my mother, herself a lay worker and Sunday school teacher, opposed their ordination of women) I reject their embracing abortion on demand. Obviously many Christian sects have become corrupted. It shouldn’t surprise me but the reality is I find most churches too concerned with prosperity and not enough with with moral education, teaching and redemption.
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