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Vatican Snubs Italy’s Offer to Fund Marriage
Church Militant ^ | 11/23/22 | Jules Gomes

Posted on 11/23/2022 7:19:21 PM PST by marshmallow

Italian church weddings face catastrophic collapse after COVID pandemic

ROME (ChurchMilitant.com) - The Vatican is rejecting a government proposal to subsidize weddings in Catholic churches, even though only 1 out of 4 Italians is now opting for a church wedding. 

On Sunday, Abp. Vincenzo Paglia, head of the Pontifical Academy for Life, spurned the offer of a tax bonus of up to 20,000 euros to be used for the expenses of couples who marry in the churches of Italy — a country that currently has one of the lowest marriage rates in the world.

"For the Church, marriage is a sacrament, and a sacrament cannot be bought," Paglia told Italian newspaper Corriere della Sera, rebuffing the offer made by the nationalist Lega Nord (Northern League) party in Italy's parliament. 

Lega Nord is led by deputy prime minister Matteo Salvini, who has been at odds with Pope Francis and the Italian bishops for Salvini's opposition to illegal immigration and the hegemony of globalists and the European Union.

"My objective is to give economic serenity to Italians to encourage them to have children. I refuse to think of substituting 10 million Italians with 10 million migrants," Salvini told The Guardian in 2021.

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TOPICS: Catholic; Ministry/Outreach; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: bergoglio; italy; romancatholicism

1 posted on 11/23/2022 7:19:21 PM PST by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow
What else would you expect out of The Argentinian Pope Boy?

2 posted on 11/23/2022 7:27:27 PM PST by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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To: marshmallow

Marriage is a luxury good, and part of the reason is the high cost of weddings.

Go back to the way my grandparents did it. Quiet service in the church with cake at the girl’s parents house.


3 posted on 11/23/2022 7:39:55 PM PST by redgolum (If this is civilization, I will be the barbarian. )
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To: marshmallow

If the EUR 20K were for “same sex weddings,” this creep Paglia (and his boss) would be all for it.


4 posted on 11/23/2022 8:12:15 PM PST by irishjuggler
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To: marshmallow
spurned the offer of a tax bonus of up to 20,000 euros to be used for the expenses of couples who marry in the churches of Italy

That money should be reserved for couples who have their babies baptized. And NOT for "expenses" - rather, to purchase cribs, diapers, etc. or to set up college funds.

Regards,

5 posted on 11/24/2022 12:09:56 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: marshmallow
"For the Church, marriage is a sacrament, and a sacrament cannot be bought," Paglia told Italian newspaper

But an annulment and indulgences can.

6 posted on 11/24/2022 1:42:06 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…)
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To: metmom

Annulment is not a Sacrament. Its a court process.

Indulgences are not sold.


7 posted on 11/24/2022 2:44:51 AM PST by Bayard
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To: Bayard

Technicalities.

And indulgences most certainly were sold in the past and even today want a donation.

And annulments are nothing less than church sanctioned divorce.


8 posted on 11/24/2022 4:48:45 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…)
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To: metmom

In other words you lied.

Annulments are not Sacraments. They are not divorce, because its a legal investigation whether people were permitted to marry to begin with, the couple have to prove they were not capable to marry. You lied here.

I can look in the Church Manuel of indulgences, no suggested donation attached. People in history have committed all kinds of abuses, that doesn’t make those abuses the teaching of the Catholic Church. Indulgences are also, not Sacraments.


9 posted on 11/24/2022 5:04:46 AM PST by Bayard
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To: metmom

There are civil annulments too. Annulment voids a marriage for reasons that existed prior to the marriage. For example if it turns out that one of the parties was already married. A divorce ends a marriage based on reasons that occurred during the marriage. For example infidelity. In both cases the legitimacy of children is not affected, iirc.


10 posted on 11/24/2022 5:34:33 AM PST by jocon307 (Democrats delenda est.)
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To: Bayard

Annulment is church sanctioned divorce.

There’s no such thing recognized by God or in Scripture as an “invalid” marriage. That is a complete fabrication by Catholicism to excuse away and rationalize divorce.


11 posted on 11/24/2022 7:51:36 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…)
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To: metmom
And indulgences most certainly were sold in the past and even today want a donation.

The underlined is simply false. Why do you repeat it?

For example, the conditions for the November 1 to 8 plenary indulgence are:

  1. Visit a cemetery between Nov 1 and 8 inclusive
  2. Pray for the people there
  3. The "usual conditions" for a plenary indulgence:
    1. An Our Father and a Hail Mary for the Pope's prayer intentions
    2. Make communion within 20 days
    3. Make confession within 20 days
    4. No attachment to sin
Do you see a donation to the church? I don't. At most you can complain about the cost & time associated with some trips out of one's way, but the church doesn't get that money.

I understand that you hate everything about the Catholic church, but at least make an effort to be accurate.

12 posted on 11/25/2022 9:52:41 AM PST by Campion (Everything is a grace, everything is the direct effect of our Father's love - Little Flower)
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To: metmom
There’s no such thing recognized by God or in Scripture as an “invalid” marriage.

Seriously? Have you ever even read the Old Testament?

What do you call it if a brother accidentally marries his sister? (It's certainly happened before.)

For that matter, what do you call it if a brother intentionally marries his sister? (The ancient Egyptian royals did it all the time.)

It's not a valid marriage, it can only be an invalid marriage.

13 posted on 11/25/2022 9:55:23 AM PST by Campion (Everything is a grace, everything is the direct effect of our Father's love - Little Flower)
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