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To: mdmathis6
You might want to get a copy of Stellarium and do the simulation yourself. I have and a similar configuration happens 6000 years ago but with Saturn being involved, and going forward, it does not happen in the next 2000 years.

Of course you can ignore the signs. It is up to you to choose.

56 posted on 05/26/2023 9:43:37 AM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR)
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To: SubMareener

The sign of the coming of Son of Man which causes the nations to mourn will be something that I would consider a “sign”. Great Signs in the heavens and the earth which are so immediately noticeable and not to be ignored are what I considered noticeable and to be humbled and even warned and chastened by.

Jupiter shows retrograde motion once every twelve years as well. The Saturn thing is supposed to be what...the planet symbolizes Satan chasing the woman with a crown of 12 stars and that is Satan waiting to be thrown down to Earth with his angels after the earth helps the woman and the woman is fleeing into the wilderness for 3.5 years?

Too close to astrology for me. The 3.5 years should have occured or should have been occuring per your timing as the last of the 7 years of tribulation if the planets had any significance.. It wasn’t some 10 year deal but part of the original 7 years tribulation(time, times and a half time) with Israel suffering the last 3.5 years minus by what ever the Lord cuts the time back to...(lest there be no life on Earth saved...God sees that as very important that some humans and other life are left alive)

Still I’ll keep a bit of open mind...there is no fixed time in Revelation in relation to what John saw, if presumably the 2017 conjunctions, of when the big heavenly battle occurs and Satan and his rebelling angels are locked up on this Earth, save for the Angel’s warnings of “Woe to the inhabitants of the earth for Satan is thrown down from the Earth and he is wroth for he knows his time is short”. The planetary conjunction might be a sign that the end is very close but still the events have yet to be set in motion just yet. It is a sign after all, a warning, not the actual event. We do know that when the Dragon chases the woman, there will be 3.5 years before Christ forcefully intervenes on earth.
Israel’s formation was a sign in 1948 that we on Earth have entered into the final times of the gentiles and God’s rule on earth thru Christ and his children, yet many a pastor or calculator have tried to figure out the “dates and times” based on Israel’s founding but have failed. I do think the snowball that started rolling downhill is growing bigger and moving faster now.

That is about how far I’ll go with the planetary/ Revelation sign hypothesis. Prophecies have to be backed up 100 per cent and so will signs when they truly are of God. Fortunately there are other signs that point toward the end being sooner than we think, other than just this one sign of John’s. Even if the 2017 event was what John saw, you can’t plug in any fixed dates or stretches of years to it just yet.


57 posted on 05/26/2023 1:48:02 PM PDT by mdmathis6 (A horrible historic indictment: Biden Democrats plunging the world into war to hide their crimes!)
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