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To: Chicory

It’s not that difficult, really. And who’s saying God didn’t create life? Not me. I just think he could have created it in a way that doesn’t defy all the evidence. Or that he had to do it in a way that pleases us.


5 posted on 07/29/2023 2:49:21 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: Telepathic Intruder

It’s only *denying the evidence* if you hold that science is true and supercedes Scripture.

On the day Adam was created as a man, he no doubt had the appearance of age. So exactly how old was he? Basically one day old, but appeared as many years old. So who is right here? The scientists who would insist on years, or the believer who said one day old and is mocked by unbelievers because of how Adam looked?

Why did God do that? Was it to deceive us as He is accused of doing by the God haters? Or for practicality and blessing?

God created a beautiful world for us to inhabit. And it also had the appearance of age. Why did God do that? To deceive us or to provide an appropriate environment for the man He was going to create to be able to life in?

If someone’s knee jerk reaction to creation is to immediately accuse God of deceit because it doesn’t allegedly line up with current *scientific* thinking, their issue is with them and their attitude towards God. They are looking for an excuse to reject Him and any will do, even if they have to make it up.


13 posted on 07/29/2023 4:34:52 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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To: Telepathic Intruder
I just think he could have created it in a way that doesn’t defy all the evidence.

What evidence are you referring to, that you believe religion defies?

The evidence & science point to a mathematical impossibility that the Universe, and everything in it, was created from nothing. Something had to exist for the creation to begin, and intelligent design had to have been behind that creation.

New ideas & developments are only possible by creating from existing materials available to humans.

21 posted on 07/29/2023 5:09:06 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Telepathic Intruder

The problem with what you are saying is that you believe in evolution and sort of tack on to that that God could have done it. What I understand from what you say is God might or might not have anything to do with it.

My idea is that none of this could have happened at all without an Intelligent Designer, that the existence of everything around us *points to* a Being with certain attributes.

I see it this way: if we were to track the history of the automobile, it would look a lot like the idea of evolution: we started with wheels, then rough carts and chariots, and then through powered vehicles that became more and more complex.

However, all that happened through design: man’s design. It’s not like someone found a car on an island where all the necessaries happened to be and came together as the result of earthquakes and lightning.

And if we found a mechanical object on a newly-discoverred island, or on the bed of the ocean, we would never say, oh, this must have formed spontaneously; we would say, I wonder who made this?

In the same way, when we look at the world we see things so vastly more complex than automobiles and should be struck by wonder at the Designer, not speculate about random forces.


33 posted on 07/29/2023 6:48:38 AM PDT by Chicory
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