Posted on 08/16/2023 6:39:10 AM PDT by zucchini bob
(2 Peter 1:20) Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. (Isaiah 28:10) For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little: (Isaiah 28:13) But the word of the LORD was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.
About as well as your current leader, I suppose.
Do you think that the rack, Iron Maiden, and other symbols of love enhanced Catholicism’s standing amoung those not under the control of Rome?
Fair? Too??
“But what about???...
... each man should have his own wife and each woman her own husband.
The husband should give to his wife her conjugal rights, and likewise the wife to her husband.
For the wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does.
Likewise the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does.
Do not deprive one another, except perhaps by agreement for a limited time, that you may devote yourselves to prayer;
but then come together again, so that Satan may not tempt you because of your lack of self-control.
Who cares about invective anyway, when I'm not under control of Rome's religious organization?
I'm just a DAMNED Prot, what else would and upstanding Catholic EXPECT me to do?
Jesus established the Catholic Church as his instrument of salvation through which the faithful are able to receive the sacraments. As a consequence, the Church also teaches that because of God’s saving plan, there is no salvation without the Church Jesus established, and that salvation can include non-Catholics (CCC 846-48).
The Church also teaches that we must freely accept the gift of salvation and persevere in it, for, as St. James teaches, justification is by faith and works and not by faith alone (CCC 162, 1814-16; see also 1854-64).
846 How are we to understand this affirmation, often repeated by the Church Fathers? Re-formulated positively, it means that all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body:
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FYI
841 The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."330~ |
That would do considerable damage too, but the thing about Mary is their obsession about her and the false image they present of her, and all the praying to her and thinking she can influence God in regard to someone’s salvation because she’s more merciful than He is.
Mary is the one they go to and is the centerpiece of their relationship with God, so they think.
Purgatory is what they consider their safety net. However, when they are in hell the only thing that might help them keep their sanity for a while is to convince themselves they are in purgatory instead of hell and it won’t last forever. They will figure it out eventually.
I can imagine 100 trillion eons in the lake of fire, could tend to wear on their nerves, and make them go totally insane. No one is going to enjoy the lake of fire. I figure the pain goes to infinity, and is a trillion times worse, than the worst thing they could ever imagine in a trillion lifetimes. I am sure there is a reason they fear Hell, so why do they freely choose to go there? This is illogical.
Sadly, lots of people choose to go there.
God offers a way out through faith and trust in Jesus, but many hate Him and won’t take it.
Well, they will get what they want, an eternity without Him, but they sure aren’t going to like it very much.
No, they are NOT going to like the lake of fire, even a little bit. I just don’t understand why they choose hell. It’s stupid.
This maybe hard for you to grasp,
but Catholics (and if anyone claims "they used to be" Catholic should understand)
Do NOT believe death is an ending,
but a metamorphasis, a Transfiguring into the next life.
Yes we do belueve in a bodily Resurrection,
but death from our earthly existence is a process that
transcends our little human brains to conceive of it.
Atheists of course don't feel this way.
We were not created to be purely earthly beings. (Thanks, satan)
My soul will never die- or be killed I hope,
So while we only have this short amount of time
on earth to cooperate with Gods Grace,
We belive our earthly death is not an end.
If that's what you mean.
So, clearly the determination of whether Jesus was speaking literally or figuratively/spiritually depends on which church theology or doctrine Catholics wish to support.
That is not a good way to establish doctrine,
When Jesus Himself says that it is the SPIRIT who gives life and the flesh, be it His body or ours, is no help at all, that the words He spoke were spiritual, then He told us it was figuratively and not physically.
Besides, do you really think that Jesus who said He came not abolish the Law but to fulfill it would actually demand that people break it and sin?
While your not as obvious as other "false-flag" I "used to be" Catholic posers on FR...
The ignorance of the Catholic Faith comments you make
come right out of a Jack Chick tract.
Because ANY lapsed Catholic would know that any recent dogma introduced by the Church
was based on centuries of cobtemplating and understanding Christian theology.
The comment you falsely replied to here was spot on with the historical evidence for just how the Assumption of Mary came to be - finally, and dogmatically - 1950.
Even non-religious Wiki can show you the evidence of Assumption consideration,
going back to the 3rd, 4th and 5th centuries.
Think a little here before you type.
And now next level;
think how Mother and Child in utero share DNA cellular make up
as we scientifically now know this is reality.
The exchanged DNA cellular make up of Christ
and between, and IN The Blessed Virgin Mary
would not have died- and been interred
here on earth- if Christ-
ALL OF CHRIST-
EVERY biological cell of his human existence
was not to remain on earth.
And dont tell me the Blessed Virgin needed a chariot like Elijah
when he was assumed in Heaven either.
There really don't believe it; therefore...
think how Mother and Child in utero share DNA cellular make up as we scientifically now know this is reality. The exchanged DNA cellular make up of Christ and between, and IN The Blessed Virgin Mary would not have died- and been interred here on earth- if Christ- ALL OF CHRIST- EVERY biological cell of his human existence was not to remain on earth. |
Stop it. I was a Catholic until I became born from above through the Holy Spirit.
Twelve years of parochial school. In high school, our religion classes consisted of studying papal encyclicals and the history of Roman Catholicism. Not once in those 4 years of high school religion did we open a bible.
So you didn’t go to Mass at all and hear 3 readings plus the Psalms?
Every time I hear “I went to Catholic school for ....” I always get ready to hear the most ignorant accusations possible. It’s indefensible in the age of the internet to not know the truth about the one true faith.
—> And dont tell me the Blessed Virgin needed a chariot like Elijah
when he was assumed in Heaven either.
Male pronoun now.
Call me old fashioned, but I liked knowing Mary was a woman.
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