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Is it ever OK to lie? Pastors and theologians respond
Christian Post ^ | 08/19/2023 | Nicole Alcindor

Posted on 08/19/2023 5:40:04 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 08/19/2023 5:40:04 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Interesting the article’s author didn’t know the bible well enough to even quote the only biblical example that DOES shed light on the question....


2 posted on 08/19/2023 5:43:17 PM PDT by BereanBrain
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To: SeekAndFind

When the wife asks, “Does this dress make me look fat”?


3 posted on 08/19/2023 5:43:37 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: BereanBrain

RE: Interesting the article’s author didn’t know the bible well enough to even quote the only biblical example that DOES shed light on the question....

Can you share with us the specific book and verse? Thanks.


4 posted on 08/19/2023 5:46:14 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I have found many times people have lied in the Bible. David when he was running from Saul several times, Faked sickness, madness, promises broken in the various wars between David and Saul, David’s promise to Shimei son of Gera, broken by Solomon, and many others.


5 posted on 08/19/2023 5:49:15 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (“No man’s life, liberty, or property are safe while the legislature is in session.”)
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To: SeekAndFind
Like many of us, I suspect, I've fallen short in this area, but IMHO, lying is always wrong, but sometimes it's the lesser of two (or more) evils.

God is the creator of all reality. To deliberately misrepresent that which we know to be true or factual, is an affront to the Creator.

6 posted on 08/19/2023 5:50:04 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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To: SeekAndFind

“Does this dress make me look fat?”

The answer is a matter of survival.


7 posted on 08/19/2023 5:51:10 PM PDT by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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To: SeekAndFind
"Is it ever okay to lie?"

Of course. What a silly question.

The terrorists break into the house. The children are hiding in the closet. The terrorists ask me if anyone else is in the house. I'm going to say, "Yes, the children are hiding in the closet." Of course I'm going to say, "No."

However, any time you must lie, say to yourself, "That's a lie." That's very important. NEVER lie to yourself.

8 posted on 08/19/2023 5:53:17 PM PDT by Savage Beast (Go to see Sound of Freedom. Encourage everyone you know to see it.)
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To: SeekAndFind

What part of thou shalt not bear false witness don’t these pastors, priests and theologians understand?!


9 posted on 08/19/2023 5:57:02 PM PDT by No name given (Anonymous is who you’ll know me as )
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To: SeekAndFind

Jacob tricks Isaac into getting a blessing meant for Esau.

Blind father; animal skin on the arm story.

And Jacob is considered a partriarch, and Esau not.


10 posted on 08/19/2023 5:57:14 PM PDT by fruser1
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I like this debate. Nazi’s at the door asking for Jews is a classic scenario. The question from the Nazi’s is immoral and for an immoral purpose. What would Reverend Waggoner say during a home invasion if he knew his children were hiding in the Attic and the invaders asked if anyone else was in the house? What would he say if his 4 year old daughter asked him if he liked her painting?

Interesting dabate


11 posted on 08/19/2023 5:57:30 PM PDT by STJPII ( )
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“Doctor, the last thing I recall before waking up in this hospital bed, was telling my wife, “No honey, it is not the dress that makes you look fat.””

I believe the safe answer to such a question would be, “Aw honey, how could you even ask?”

That answer is bound to get you some lovin’ that night. (Unless you have been critical in the past, in which case, an ice pack on your soon to be black eye would be recommended.)


12 posted on 08/19/2023 5:59:09 PM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian ( Ceterum autem censeo Justinius True-dope-us esse delendam)
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To: fruser1

a little more happened after Jacob tricked Isaac and before Jacob was blessed by God and considered a patriarch, it’s in the Book.


13 posted on 08/19/2023 6:08:26 PM PDT by b4me
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When the wife asks, “Does this dress make me look fat”?

The wife who asks that is acting in bad faith and deserves to be called out for it. A husband who is truly the spiritual leader of his family will do so.

14 posted on 08/19/2023 6:08:46 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: SeekAndFind
The modern answer is yes, when President Trump is on trial.

-PJ

15 posted on 08/19/2023 6:11:12 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: NorthMountain

I dunno. When I ask did I do something stupid or what, the wife never ever says I am wrong.


16 posted on 08/19/2023 6:14:27 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: BereanBrain

I lie constantly when all these idiot companies insist on me giving them my personal information.


17 posted on 08/19/2023 6:22:41 PM PDT by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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To: SeekAndFind

When Rahab hid the Israelite spies and told the king of Jericho they had left.


18 posted on 08/19/2023 6:23:16 PM PDT by dr4gey
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To: STJPII
Bonhoeffer conspired against Hitler. He was a theological giant and with unwavering faith. He believed in a higher purpose.

Conversely, this seems trivial compared to Bonhoeffer, I believe many speakers in the pulpit exaggerate in their storytelling to make a point. Hard to prove, but sometimes I think, "never happened."

19 posted on 08/19/2023 6:23:40 PM PDT by HonkyTonkMan ( )
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“No honey, that particular dress doesn’t make you look fat BECAUSE, ahem, everything you wear makes you look fat. I mean when I see you in a black dress, I think of outer space.” All the flesh eating bacteria on her died from exhaustion.
Before anyone uses these lines make sure your will is completed and notarized, and a peaceful life is no longer your desire.


20 posted on 08/19/2023 6:41:43 PM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and harder to find.)
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