Posted on 11/01/2023 12:54:42 AM PDT by Morgana
If you think TPUSA is the guardian of conservative values, think again. Led by Charlie Kirk, this organization is nothing short of a Trojan horse in the conservative movement. While it claims to champion conservatism, it’s busy platforming and promoting ideologies that are anything but conservative—like embracing the LGBTQ movement to platforming heretics to blaspheme God.
TPUSA isn’t conserving the moral standards set forth by God—it’s diluting them, turning conservatism into a self-serving ideology aimed at broadening its base. And the worst part? Churches—yes, churches that claim to be conservative—are jumping on this bandwagon, compromising the gospel for self-serving politics. So, I won’t mince words, TPUSA is not helping us fight the culture war from a biblical worldview. Instead, it’s leading us down a path of moral compromise.
In a recent rally, the TPUSA Faith Pastors Summit, Che’Ahn, a self-proclaimed apostle from the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) and pastor of Harvest Rock Church in Pasadena, California, took the stage and made a statement so outrageous it’s hard to believe anyone in the audience could keep a straight face. “There’s no theology for the Holy Spirit. The Trinity has got the Father, got the Son, and got the Holy Scripture,” he declared. This isn’t just a minor theological difference, this is a full-blown, lights-flashing, sirens-wailing heresy. And he received no correction from the “pastors” in the conference.
The orthodox Christian teaching of the Trinity is clear that God exists as three persons—Father, Son, and Holy Spirit—yet one God. This isn’t some obscure, optional belief—it’s basic, fundamental Christianity. Nor is the Holy Spirit an afterthought or a theological void. He’s God. And Holy Scripture? While Christ is the Word made flesh, and the Scriptures are the inspired word of God, the Bible itself is not a member of the Trinity. Che’Ahn’s statement doesn’t just dip its toes into a pool of heresy, it dives headlong into it.
Now, you might be thinking, “So what? It’s just one guy with a microphone.” But the problem is that TPUSA, an organization that claims to be the leader of the modern culture war, the primary restorer of conservative values, gave him that microphone. They put him on stage, in the spotlight, and let him spew this theological nonsense, damnable diarrhea, to an audience of young, impressionable minds. This is more than a one-time failure, it’s a betrayal of every conservative who takes their faith seriously.
And let’s not kid ourselves, this isn’t an isolated incident. It’s symptomatic of a much larger issue—the willingness to dilute, distort, and downright ignore core Christian beliefs for the sake of political gain. When you invite a false teacher to your rally, you’re not just making a political statement, you’re making a theological one. You’re saying that the boundaries of orthodox Christianity are negotiable, that they can be bent, twisted, or even shattered if it helps you win an election or get more followers on social media.
But here’s the cold, hard truth. Christianity isn’t a tool to be used for political maneuvering. It’s a faith that demands uncompromising loyalty and obedience to the truths revealed in Scripture. And the Trinity? It’s non-negotiable. You can’t claim to stand for conservative values, for the truth of the Bible, and then give a platform to someone who openly denies one of its most fundamental doctrines.
So, what’s the takeaway? Be discerning. Don’t let the allure of political power or social influence lead you to compromise on the non-negotiables of your faith. Because at the end of the day, it’s not just about winning an election or gaining followers, it’s about standing firm in the truth—no matter the cost.
Wow - If he said that ... that's a non-negotiable point of theology. Having said that, the protestant church doesn't talk much about the Holy Spirit to begin with. They tend to use phrases like 'Walk with Jesus' (which is not in the NT); Instead we are told to 'Walk in the Spirit' ... I need to look into this more ... thanks for posting
Had to look up TPUSA - from the web:
Turning Point USA is an American nonprofit organization that advocates for conservative politics on high school, college, and university campuses. It was founded in 2012 by Charlie Kirk and Bill Montgomery. TPUSA’s interconnected affiliate groups include Turning Point Endowment, Turning Point Action and TPUSA Faith.
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Straying might be a better term than Turning.
Does a particular denomination come to mind? All protestant churches aren’t alike. The Evangelical ones are probably more likely to talk about the Holy Spirit than some of the more traditional ones, but I don’t recall any of them shying away from the Trinity.
Turning Point, USA. a conservative outreach organization for young HS and college students.
Most Evangelical church people I know...
It’s just another creepy cult.
“the protestant church doesn’t talk much about the Holy Spirit “
I can’t speak to other denominations you consider as protestant. But if you educate yourself and look at Baptist documents (Articles Of Faith,” What we Believe”, etc.), the Holy Spirit is 100% part of the Trinity.
Most evangelical churches give lip service to the Holy Spirit. They tend to talk about changing one's life (Sanctification) in terms of 'Get more Jesus', and frown on one's own will power. When in actuality WILLPOWER is how the Holy Spirit works in our lives.
Paul talks about having 'the fruit of the Spirit' in our lives: Love, Peace, Joy, Gentleness, Kindness, Faith-fullness, and (wait for it) SELF CONTROL.
I went to a Gospel Coalition Church for years, and the always dissed 'Self Control' - Things were always cloaked in 'Get more Jesus'
In part, because they never talk about the Spirit in one's life.
They promulgate books like 'Meek and Lowly' to suggest we should life pious lives, but completely ignore clear teachings about the Spirit directing our lives ... I could go on
Christ said at the last supper (paraphrase) If I have to leave so the Spirit will come.
He also said, 'One day people will worship the FATHER in Spirit and Truth.' ...
To sum it up, without Christ, there is no Salvation; but without the Spirit, there is no Sanctification.
Another example of the dumbing down of so many people, including “leaders”, “influencers”, teachers, pastors.
“So, what’s the takeaway?”
Revert or convert to the One True Faith.
One, holy, catholic and apostolic.
“Even when most Evangelicals pray, they will close with, ‘In Jesus Name’”
That’s because Jesus said so:
John 14:13-14 - And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
John 14:14 - If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.
John 16:24 - Hitherto have ye asked nothing in my name: ask, and ye shall receive, that your joy may be full.
John 14:13 - And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
John 15:16b - ... that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.
John 16:23-24 - And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you.
Colossians 3:17 - And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him.
Yes. Christ did promise that He would sent the Comforter. He did not instruct Christians to pray in the Comforter’s name.
“To sum it up, without Christ, there is no Salvation; but without the Spirit, there is no Sanctification.”
And without the Holy Spirit there is no salvation, either; He convicts the unsaved to receive the gift of salvation.
Read up on Pneumatology and Soteriology.
It’s best not to mix politics and religion.
Any religion that’s not a big enough part of your life that it doesn’t affect your political inclinations is useless.
The groypers unmasked him years ago, but boomercons are stilled fooled by his schtick.
AMEN!
I know a guy who believes this. He’s been kicked out of several churches because of it. I’m no theologian but his “teaching” is easily torn to shreds biblically.
In his case, I think it’s a mental illness. 100 years ago, his family owned a large and influential Christian publishing company. The wealth and influence is gone and I think he keeps writing screeds that no one reads in some sort of futile attempt to recreate the family influence.
Thanks for those verses - I will reflect on them
Something the church doesn’t need is another para-church organization (TPUSA)
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