[metmom]

Red herring.

You were talking about the Jews.

Christians need to overcome evil with good and there is no excuse for the kind of persecution of the Jews by any religion calling itself Christian.

Self defense when being attacked is a different issue.

Do you really try to justify the church using the sword simply because Jesus gave the apostles permission to defend themselves?

[Angelino97]

Red herring. You were talking about the Jews.

You were talking about the Beatitudes, which apply to all people; Jews, Muslims, pagans, everyone.

Do you really try to justify the church using the sword

I said the antagonism was mutual. At times Jews also directed violence against Christians. Such as when they opened the gates of Toledo for the Muslim invaders in 711.

[ealgeone]

Recall Rome had no problems torturing and putting to death the Reformers.