[Angelino97]

No. No return to the antisemitism of the past in the cause of getting rid of Vatican II.

Until Vatican II, the Church's official position on the Jews was expressed in Sicut Judaeis, which called for their protection.

That wasn't always followed, unfortunately. But then again, Jews weren't always benevolent to Christians. Malicious acts were always mutual.

The Talmud, written before the Holocaust or Inquisition or Crusades, is especially vile toward Christianity. It even claims that Jesus is in Hell, boiling in a vat of feces.

If Orthodox Jews have issued a statement condemning such passages in the Talmud, thus reciprocating Nostra Aetate, I am unaware of it.

[ealgeone]

Until Vatican II, the Church's official position on the Jews was expressed in Sicut Judaeis, which called for their protection.

There was this which many RCs like to overlook.

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68. Jews appearing in public

A difference of dress distinguishes Jews or Saracens from Christians in some provinces, but in others a certain confusion has developed so that they are indistinguishable. Whence it sometimes happens that by mistake Christians join with Jewish or Saracen women, and Jews or Saracens with christian women. In order that the offence of such a damnable mixing may not spread further, under the excuse of a mistake of this kind, we decree that such persons of either sex, in every christian province and at all times, are to be distinguished in public from other people by the character of their dress — seeing moreover that this was enjoined upon them by Moses himself, as we read. They shall not appear in public at all on the days of lamentation and on passion Sunday; because some of them on such days, as we have heard, do not blush to parade in very ornate dress and are not afraid to mock Christians who are presenting a memorial of the most sacred passion and are displaying signs of grief. What we most strictly forbid however, is that they dare in any way to break out in derision of the Redeemer. We order secular princes to restrain with condign punishment those who do so presume, lest they dare to blaspheme in any way him who was crucified for us, since we ought not to ignore insults against him who blotted out our wrongdoings.

69. Jews not to hold public offices

It would be too absurd for a blasphemer of Christ to exercise power over Christians. We therefore renew in this canon, on account of the boldness of the offenders, what the council of Toledo providently decreed in this matter : we forbid Jews to be appointed to public offices, since under cover of them they are very hostile to Christians. If, however, anyone does commit such an office to them let him, after an admonition, be curbed by the provincial council, which we order to be held annually, by means of an appropriate sanction. Any official so appointed shall be denied commerce with Christians in business and in other matters until he has converted to the use of poor Christians, in accordance with the directions of the diocesan bishop, whatever he has obtained from Christians by reason of his office so acquired, and he shall surrender with shame the office which he irreverently assumed. We extend the same thing to pagans.

Fourth Council of the Lateran

https://www.papalencyclicals.net/councils/ecum12-2.htm

[metmom]

That wasn't always followed, unfortunately. But then again, Jews weren't always benevolent to Christians. Malicious acts were always mutual.

Which is totally irrelevant and not anywhere near an excuse.

At the very least, Jesus’ teachings in the Beatitudes completely demolishes any rationalization for such actions on the part of those naming the name of Christ.

[af_vet_1981]

But then again, Jews weren't always benevolent to Christians. Malicious acts were always mutual.

Jews persecuted Jewish Christians in the first hundred years after Jesus. They did not have authority over, or much interest in, the Gentiles other than wanting freedom from them.

They fought three wars against the Romans, losing all of them and their freedom entirely. So for almost nineteen centuries they were enslaved, persecuted, and had no power over Christians, whereas in so-called Christendom, the Gentiles had absolute power of the Jews.

Thus your premise is deeply flawed.

[Elsie]

We cannot change others. We can only change how we REACT to others.