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[Catholic Caucus] Fighting for the TLM: From Paris to D.C.
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| December 28, 2023
| Christian Marquant
Posted on 01/01/2024 5:05:28 PM PST by ebb tide
[Catholic Caucus] Fighting for the TLM: From Paris to D.C.
118TH WEEK: THE SENTINELS CONTINUE THEIR PRAYERS
FOR THE DEFENSE OF THE TRADITIONAL MASS
IN FRONT OF THE ARCHDIOCESE OF PARIS
Dear friends,
How much it would have pleased me to rejoice with you this Christmas at the establishment of a sort of truce through the good will of our pastors. Unfortunately, the tightening of screws following Traditionis Custodes continues everywhere in France. In Paris, no mass at Notre-Dame du Tavail, where it would be so easy to re-establish it, neither is there any perspective of masses elsewhere in the south of the capital nor in the north of Paris.
God undoubtedly wants to put to the trial, to test, the fidelity of those who fight for the preservation of this purest lex orandi of the Roman Church and of what accompanies it, essentially the Catholic catechism. And He casts away any risk of “embourgeoisement” of the beneficiaries of these goods.
Surely, you know by now that we are not alone in the world protesting with perseverance and tenacity. In Washington, since June 2022, when restrictions on masses were announced, a group of faithful has organized a gathering every Saturday at 9 a.m., to pray the Rosary in front of the apostolic nunciature, which is now occupied by the new French cardinal, Mgr Christophe Pierre, who is very hostile to the traditional liturgy. These are faithful coming from the dioceses of Washington DC and Arlington, who pray for the freedom of traditional masses in their dioceses.
Riposte Catholique (https://riposte-catholique.fr/archives/184686) tells us that they also organized three walking pilgrimages from St. Thomas More Cathedral in Arlington to St. Matthew Cathedral in Washington, praying for an end to the restrictions and the restoration of the traditional mass. Saint Ambrose, in a lesson from Christmas Matins, compares the shepherds of Bethlehem to the pastors of the Church, that is to say, to the bishops. But, he adds, “the Lord has not only committed the bishops to the defence of the flock, but he has also destined the angels to do so.» So, even if we lack the bishops, we will still have the angels of God!
Our rosaries continue in front of the archdiocesan offices, 10 rue du Cloître-Notre-Dame, this week and the following from Tuesday to Friday, from 1 p.m. to 1:30 p.m. (not on Christmas day, Monday, nor on day of the Octave, the following Monday, January 1), to which we must add the rosaries at Saint-Georges de La Villette, every Wednesday at 5 p.m., and in front of Notre-Dame du Travail, Sundays at 6 p.m.
Best wishes of a very blessed and happy Christmas! In union of prayer and friendship.
Christian Marquant
TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: dictatorpope; frankenchurch; tlm
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posted on
01/01/2024 5:05:28 PM PST
by
ebb tide
To: Al Hitan; Fedora; irishjuggler; Jaded; kalee; markomalley; miele man; Mrs. Don-o; ...
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posted on
01/01/2024 5:06:01 PM PST
by
ebb tide
(Fiducia Supplicans is an instruction to bless sin.)
To: ebb tide
Latin is a complex language that is difficult to learn.
It is unreasonable to expect all new priests to learn it.
Latin mass is comforting to many and it should be offered where there is both a demand for it and an ability to supply it.
To: Brian Griffin
It is unreasonable to expect all new priests to learn it.Why? All priests in the world, prior to VC II, were able to learn it.
And nobody's requiring that anyway. They just want priests who wish to offer the TLM to be able to do so.
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posted on
01/01/2024 5:25:05 PM PST
by
ebb tide
(Fiducia Supplicans is an instruction to bless sin.)
To: Brian Griffin
The language itself is only a small part of the matter. The form of the Mass is very different in the TLM and is much more reverent.
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posted on
01/01/2024 5:31:54 PM PST
by
Alberta's Child
(If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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posted on
01/01/2024 5:33:24 PM PST
by
ebb tide
(Fiducia Supplicans is an instruction to bless sin.)
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posted on
01/01/2024 5:33:52 PM PST
by
ebb tide
(Fiducia Supplicans is an instruction to bless sin.)
To: Brian Griffin
No, Latin is not that difficult to learn, especially for English speakers. And being able to say the Mass in Latin does not require one to be able to master conversation Latin.
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posted on
01/01/2024 5:53:34 PM PST
by
Bigg Red
(Trump will be sworn in under a shower of confetti made from the tattered remains of the Rat Party.)
To: ebb tide
I’m very fortunate to live in a diocese where the bishop supports our Latin Mass shrine. He has even requested to visit the shrine and perform confirmations in the traditional rite. For the second time. He has participated in solemn high Masses in the presence of the bishop and evening vespers. He is a bishop who gets a lot of grief here on Free Republic. Granted, he’s not the most outspokenly courageous bishop, and a lot of very questionable things go on in this diocese, but I gotta give credit where credit is due. And he’s done this with a chancery that is generally hostile to tradition.
I’m not mentioning his name or the diocese because I don’t want to draw attention to him in this hostile environment from the Vatican.
The point is that we have to be very careful when judging bishops. They operate in an environment that will eat them alive if they make one misstep. Yes, they need to be more courageous. But sometimes prudence really is the better part of valor. So many people would be so hurt if the Vatican got wind of this and removed him.
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posted on
01/01/2024 7:13:35 PM PST
by
scouter
(As for me and my household... We will serve the LORD.)
To: Alberta's Child; Brian Griffin
As the late Fr. Anthony Cekada documented in his book
Work of Human Hands, the overall content and meaning of the liturgy is so different between the two rites that in some points they could be considered mutually exclusive.
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posted on
01/02/2024 9:28:30 AM PST
by
Ultra Sonic 007
(There is nothing new under the sun.)
To: Brian Griffin
Latin is a complex language that is difficult to learn. Please tell us your experience with it.
I studied Latin for a year in (public!) high school and two years in college. You can teach almost all of the grammar (except very obscure stuff) and a pretty good vocabulary in one year of high school. My college Latin was independent study, not classroom, and basically consisted of reading Ovid and Virgil and translating it for my professor with the help of a dictionary.
As far as learning to pronounce ecclesiastical Latin read from a book (which is all a priest needs to do to say the Latin Mass; he doesn't need advanced on-the-fly translation skills; the translation is available in hand missals anyway), I can teach you that in an hour or two.
Being a native English speaker, and having studied Latin, German, and a little French, Latin is in many ways the easiest of all of them. The grammar is just memorizing rules which have very few or no exceptions.
Want an example? Why, in English, is the superlative of "cold," "coldest," while the superlative of "beautiful" is not "beautifullest"? Ever thought about it? Latin doesn't really play those tricks.
It is unreasonable to expect all new priests to learn it.
IIRC, canon law requires all seminarians to learn Latin (or prove that they know it already). Not everything is available in English translation. That's not unreasonable at all; it's part of the job.
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posted on
01/03/2024 8:43:33 AM PST
by
Campion
(Everything is a grace, everything is the direct effect of our Father's love - Little Flower)
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