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What Is the Occupancy of Hell?
National Catholic Register ^ | January 26, 2024 | Ralph Martin

Posted on 01/27/2024 1:24:30 PM PST by ebb tide

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To: FarCenter

Heaven is not going to be populated based on denominational affiliation.

To presume that someone is going to heaven because of a church they belong to is not Scriptural.

I know plenty of Catholics who don’t even try to live anywhere near a godly life and show no signs of spiritual regeneration.

That also goes for others belonging to other denominations.

There are saved and lost people in every denomination and every church congregation. The only thing that varies is the percentages.


41 posted on 01/27/2024 3:48:39 PM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: ebb tide

Everyone chooses either Hell or to be in state of sanctifying grace when they die.

A good book recommended by Patrick Madrid “The Dogma of Hell” By Fr F.X. Schowppe Tan Books

Explains basic catholic doctrines on Hell, recounts numerous true stories that reinforce belief in Hell.

Read the Gospel of St Luke 16:19-331 about the rich man and Lazarus.


42 posted on 01/27/2024 6:32:53 PM PST by ADSUM ( )
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To: metmom

The Catholic Church isn’t a denomination.
It’s the Church.

For Protestants it seems that their church is as irrelevant as which country club they belong to.

Catholics know that’s not true.

The truth matters. What you believe and do matters.


43 posted on 01/28/2024 8:56:31 AM PST by Texas_Guy
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To: Texas_Guy

The Catholic church long ago forfeited the right to be called the body of Christ.

It is and has bee corrupt from the top down for centuries.

Jesus didn’t establish any denomination, which Catholicism also is. He is building His body of all believers across time and space, regardless of church affiliation. Salvation is through HIM alone, not any organization that claims to be the sole repository of truth and salvation.


44 posted on 01/28/2024 9:28:48 AM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: metmom
Jesus didn’t establish any denomination, which Catholicism also is. He is building His body of all believers across time and space, regardless of church affiliation. Salvation is through HIM alone, not any organization that claims to be the sole repository of truth and salvation.

Then why did Jesus Christ establish His Church, and only that one church?

45 posted on 01/28/2024 4:02:26 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

He didn’t say He was establishing a church but building a church.

Any denomination that claims retroactively that Jesus meant them is wrong. Jesus did not say He was establishing Catholicism, or that it was to be under one head in Rome. He never mentioned either of those things nor did he establish the papacy.

What Roman Catholicism has morphed into bears no resemblance to the NT churches found in the book of Acts and mentioned in the epistles or Paul.

There were many churches in many locations and there was no one leader or head over them all but Jesus Himself. Elders and other leaders are just shepherds who oversee the local congregation.


46 posted on 01/28/2024 4:27:30 PM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: Honorary Serb

It won’t be once both of them pass.


47 posted on 01/29/2024 11:02:47 AM PST by verga (In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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To: zeestephen

Is Hell exothermic (gives off heat) or endothermic (absorbs heat)?

Most of the students wrote proofs of their beliefs using Boyle’s Law (gas cools when it expands and heats when it is compressed) or some variant.

One student, however, wrote the following: First, we need to know how the mass of Hell is changing in time. So we need to know the rate at which souls are moving into Hell and the rate at which they are leaving, which is unlikely. I think that we can safely assume that once a soul gets to Hell, it will not leave. Therefore, no souls are leaving. As for how many souls are entering Hell, let’s look at the different religions that exist in the world today. Most of these religions state that if you are not a member of their religion, you will go to Hell. Since there is more than one of these religions and since people do not belong to more than one religion, we can project that all souls go to Hell. With birth and death rates as they are, we can expect the number of souls in Hell to increase exponentially. Now, we look at the rate of change of the volume in Hell because Boyle’s Law states that in order for the temperature and pressure in Hell to stay the same, the volume of Hell has to expand proportionately as souls are added.

This gives two possibilities:

1. If Hell is expanding at a slower rate than the rate at which souls enter Hell, then the temperature and pressure in Hell will increase until all Hell breaks loose.

2. If Hell is expanding at a rate faster than the increase of souls in Hell, then the temperature and pressure will drop until Hell freezes over.

So which is it? If we accept the postulate given to me by Teresa during my Freshman year that, ‘It will be a cold day in Hell before I sleep with you,’ and take into account the fact that I slept with her last night, then number two must be true, and thus I am sure that Hell is exothermic and has already frozen over.

The corollary of this theory is that since Hell has frozen over, it follows that it is not accepting any more souls and is therefore, extinct..... ...leaving only Heaven, thereby proving the existence of a divine being which explains why, last night, Teresa kept shouting ‘Oh my God.’


48 posted on 01/29/2024 11:21:05 AM PST by verga (In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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To: metmom

This has been explained to you several times: Original Greek. καγὼ δέ σοι λέγω ὅτι σὺ εἶ Πέτρος καὶ ἐπὶ ταύτῃ τῇ πέτρᾳ οἰκοδομήσω μου τὴν ἐκκλησίαν καὶ πύλαι ᾅδου οὐ κατισχύσουσιν αὐτῆς.And I say also unto thee That thou art Peter and upon this rock I will build my church and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
ἐκκλησίαν is singular. One Church, One Body.
Eph 4:3-6 – one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father. One Faith, not Multiple denominations.
He gave the Apostels the same authority he had.
Mt 28:18-20 – Jesus delegates all power to Apostles
Mt 18:18 – power to legislate
Mt 18:17 – power to discipline
Jn 20:23 – power to forgive sin
Jn 20:21 – Jesus gave the Apostles his own mission.
He allowed the apostles to pass on their authority and so on and so on: 1Tim 4:14 – gift conferred with the laying on of hands. Now unless the leaders of your church can trace their authority directly to an apostle. you don’t have a leg to stand on.

Jn 14:16, 26 – Holy Spirit with you always, teach/remind you of everything. So your comment about the Catholic Church is incorrect, unless you are trying to call Jesus a liar.


49 posted on 01/29/2024 11:40:51 AM PST by verga (In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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To: steve86

All myths created by desperate people to provide hope to other desperate people.


50 posted on 02/02/2024 8:56:25 AM PST by 353FMG
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