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To: grumpa
Charles, your way off in your eisegesis as demonstrated yesterday. And you're doing so again tonight.

In fact, the Bible never speaks about the end of the physical universe, and indeed teaches that the earth abides forever in some sense...

Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth; for the first heaven and the first earth passed away, and there is no longer any sea. Rev 21:1 NASB 95

But in keeping with God's promise, we are looking forward to a new heaven and a new earth, where righteousness dwells. 2 Peter 3:13

For behold, I will create new heavens and a new earth. The former things will not be remembered, nor will they come to mind. Isaiah 65:17

9 posted on 03/14/2024 6:00:16 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone; grumpa

I’ve noticed the hatred for God and His Word especially Prophetic Word is making most of the scoffer go mad lately.

Satan really hates The Pre-Tribulation Rapture, so do his followers.

One thing I find fascinating with all of the scoffers is that they would much rather be living here “their best life now” then to be in Heaven with Jesus.

They all have that same mindset and attitude - it’s says all you need to know about their Christian walk.

They state “Please come Jesus, but not today and not too soon - I have stuff to do”.....

2 Timothy 4:8
Finally, there is laid up for me the crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous Judge, will give to me on that Day, and not to me only but also to all who have loved His appearing.

Maranatha!


10 posted on 03/14/2024 6:13:42 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: ealgeone

TEN CLUES TO UNDERSTANDING the NEW HEAVEN and NEW EARTH

The “New Heaven and New Earth” of the Bible is popularly thought by Christians to be a future world of utopia—either on earth or in heaven. In the new heaven and new earth there will LITERALLY be “no more tears, pain, or death” (Revelation 21:4). It would be a time when “the wolf will lie down with the lamb” (Isaiah 11:6; 65:25). But watch out on this! We are given clues in the Bible that the popular view may be flawed.

The primary texts about the New Heaven and New Earth are Isaiah 65/66, Matthew 5:17-18; 2 Peter 3, and Revelation 21. Christians hold at least four different views about the New Heaven and New Earth. These include the following (or combinations of these views):

1. Heaven itself. True bliss implied in the New Heaven and New Earth is found only in heaven.

2. A renewed future earth perhaps like the Garden of Eden. Or, it is sometimes said that “heaven and earth become melded as one.” This concept is expressed in somewhat vague terms―is this heaven on earth?

3. A literal 1,000-year period (the “millennium”) in which Jesus has returned bodily to earth and rules the world from a literal throne in Jerusalem. His iron-fisted rule creates a near-perfect utopia on earth, in which there will be literally “no more tears, pain, or death.” The millennium is only found in Revelation 20, but this view considers Revelation chapters 20-22 as a unit.

4. The New Heaven and New Earth refers to the new covenant world in which Jesus is ruling forever from heaven.

Let’s see which model best fits the biblical narrative.

Thesis: Some uses of the nouns “earth” or “heavens” refer to physical realities in the cosmos (Genesis 1:1; etc.), especially when referred to in the present or past tense. However, I have found ten reasons why the best biblical fit for “New Heaven and New Earth” is option #4. Eschatological expressions in the Bible are often symbolic or metaphoric―especially in Revelation and especially about prophetic utterances future to the writers―rather than strictly literal. “Hebraic apocalyptic language,” expressions of God’s judgments expressed in cosmological language, was also used by the biblical writers to express spiritual or covenantal things in physical terms. To help determine what is to be understood literally vs. metaphorically, a knowledge of the Old Testament language, context, and common sense should be considered. Accordingly, the New Heaven and New Earth can be understood as a Hebraic metaphor for the New Covenant in Christ.

To explore what the Bible says about the four possibilities for the New Heaven and New Earth, go to my article here:

https://prophecyquestions.com/10-clues-to-understanding-the-new-heaven-and-new-earth


22 posted on 03/15/2024 4:37:46 AM PDT by grumpa
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