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Why Christians Don't Understand Non-Christians
ArGee | 1/3/01 | ArGee

Posted on 01/03/2002 11:19:13 AM PST by ArGee

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To: chookter
How about The Koran?

Have you read The Koran and The Bible? Can you see distinctions between them?

Do you know how to validate a claim to truth?

Shalom.

541 posted on 01/04/2002 8:18:52 AM PST by ArGee
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To: Junior
My side.

Who's on the LORD's side?

Shalom.

542 posted on 01/04/2002 8:19:38 AM PST by ArGee
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To: RobRoy
Obviously you've never heard of the Babelfish. Just kidding.
Actually, this will work......

Why are there so many different ROOT languages, if the Tower of Babel incident was not an actual event in history?

It seems to me, that if Man had a starting point, either by Evolution or by Creation, our languages would NOT have such major differences. We have seen thru history the speed that languages evolve or change.

543 posted on 01/04/2002 8:20:06 AM PST by Elsie
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To: ArGee
Actually, all books are inspired by God, otherwise, how would humans write them? It could be possible that one or two of those 40 writers could have had a little too much wine one cold nite while they were writing.
544 posted on 01/04/2002 8:21:39 AM PST by stuartcr
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To: lexcorp
Leave him for the fantasy writers?

G-d is very real. G-d is the basis of all reality. In fact, what you normally think of as real is mearly a shadow - a poor image of the reality that is to come. G-d is much more real than you have probably ever imagined.

Maybe that's why you can't see Him.

Shalom.

545 posted on 01/04/2002 8:21:54 AM PST by ArGee
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To: Elsie
Why are there so many different ROOT languages, if the Tower of Babel incident was not an actual event in history?

Oh, come on.... This isn't a serious question.... Is it?

546 posted on 01/04/2002 8:22:15 AM PST by OWK
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To: lexcorp
Worship of The Jealous Angry God gave us the Crusades, Inquisitions, (contributed to the) Black Death, and Islamic conquests. Worship of the Volk gave us the European theatrer. Emporer worship gave us the Pacific theater. Worship of Marxism gave us the Soviets and ChiComs. Worship of multiculturalism and sensitivity gave us the troubles we have now. Worship of the environment might well give us a collapsed economy.
Nope.........

Worship of these did NOT cause the effects you describe. Trying to force ones WILL onto others, did.

Two different things.

547 posted on 01/04/2002 8:23:17 AM PST by Elsie
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To: ArGee
G-d is very real. G-d is the basis of all reality. In fact, what you normally think of as real is mearly a shadow - a poor image of the reality that is to come. G-d is much more real than you have probably ever imagined.

You keep repeating this same mantra, without providing substantiation for it.

548 posted on 01/04/2002 8:23:44 AM PST by OWK
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To: ArGee
Not me, I just have plain old unprovable, illogical, unsubstantiated faith in one true God. I've never felt the need for more.
549 posted on 01/04/2002 8:25:18 AM PST by stuartcr
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To: LuvItOrLeaveIt
That's the impression you've been giving me. [that G-d is a beast that serves me]

I am truly sorry if I have done anything to give that impression to you. Please share with me how I gave you that impression.

Been there, done that, nobody showed. Got over it. Moved on.

And now, the heart of the matter. G-d did not meet your expectations. Just a question, if G-d is who the Bible says He is, then why should you demand He meet your expectations. Isn't it more reasonable that He should demand you meet His?

Think about it.

Shalom.

P.S. All current scholarship is that Luke was actually Luke, and one of the best historians of ancient times there ever was.

550 posted on 01/04/2002 8:25:24 AM PST by ArGee
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To: Elsie
Is it time to save your pearls?

Not for me. I understand your point, but I asked a question and I am still reading the answers.

Shalom.

551 posted on 01/04/2002 8:26:39 AM PST by ArGee
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To: Elsie

Here PIGGY, Piggy, piggy.

Let's read it in context.

Matthew 7
 
 1.  "Do not judge, or you too will be judged.
 2.  For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
 3.  "Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?
 4.  How can you say to your brother, `Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when all the time there is a plank in your own eye?
 5.  You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.
 6.  "Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and then turn and tear you to pieces.
 7.  "Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you.
 8.  For everyone who asks receives; he who seeks finds; and to him who knocks, the door will be opened.
 9.  "Which of you, if his son asks for bread, will give him a stone?
 10.  Or if he asks for a fish, will give him a snake?
 11.  If you, then, though you are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in heaven give good gifts to those who ask him!
 12.  So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.
 13.  "Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it.
 14.  But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.

(Would someone rather be called a dog?)
552 posted on 01/04/2002 8:29:53 AM PST by Elsie
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To: alaskanfan
I guess I just don't get it. Doesn't God love budhists, shintoists, taoists, and etc as much as he loves christians? What's up with that?

The question is, do Buddhists, Shintoists, Taoists, and etc. love G-d as much as they love their own selves?

That's the problem. If G-d is then there are beliefs in G-d that are false. If G-d is not then all beliefs are equally valid. But presuming that He is then those who love Him will seek to know Him as fully and as perfectly as they can. If religion is just a comfort for the believer, then it doesn't matter what they beliefe. But if religion is the attempt to know God as He is, then it matters.

Are you a Buddhist, Shintoist, Taoist, or etc? Do you love G-d? Come to the Table.

Shalom.

553 posted on 01/04/2002 8:29:57 AM PST by ArGee
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To: ArGee
If you can tell me why it is that you reject every other mythos, theological figurehead, God, and object of worship asserted as real by every other culture throughout the history of time on the planet, it may bring you a step closer to understanding why it is that I reject yours.
554 posted on 01/04/2002 8:30:51 AM PST by OWK
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To: Elsie

Hold on! We're going to do the 'judgement' thing now!!!!!!!


555 posted on 01/04/2002 8:31:03 AM PST by Elsie
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To: LuvItOrLeaveIt
The prophecies in the Bible are no different than Miss Cleo, IMO.

Which ones?

Oh, and I've never had a prayer fail. Maybe you're trying to use it for the wrong purpose?

Shalom.

556 posted on 01/04/2002 8:31:09 AM PST by ArGee
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To: abandon
I think your tale has to be altered.

No, my tale is accurate as I have told it. I don't know which banquets you have been invited to. I am eating and, believe me, the food is GOOD.

Come to the table.

Shalom.

557 posted on 01/04/2002 8:32:34 AM PST by ArGee
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To: discostu
Basically that's what everybody loses if they bet wrong on the roulette table of religion, assuming anybody is right.

I don't bet. Ask the Man. He will tell you. I will tell you myself that the banquet is here and the food is GOOD. I am eating of it, and there is plenty here for you.

Come to the Table.

Shalom.

558 posted on 01/04/2002 8:34:13 AM PST by ArGee
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To: LuvItOrLeaveIt
Actually, as I've stated time and again, I am open to any independently verifiable evidence you would care to present.

What do you mean by "independently verifiable."

Shalom.

559 posted on 01/04/2002 8:35:33 AM PST by ArGee
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To: OWK
We are talking about death. Death at the hands of a vengeful God. The end of earthly existence.

Perhaps death means something different to God than it does to us. Mortals may see death as the end of everything, and if that is true, God is indeed cruel in cutting a person's life short. But from God's perspective, perhaps death is merely the gateway to a different form of life, just as birth is the gateway to mortality. Both birth and death involve a certain amount of pain. But in the the eternal scheme of things, that pain is short-lived.

As for the "vengeful" part, I personally believe, that God did not write the Bible. People with limited knowledge and experience wrote the Bible, and they are the ones who describe Him as vengeful.

From a child's point of view, a parent's discipline may seem "mean, unfair" or even "vengeful." When the child gains more knowledge and experience, he/she can begin to see that the parent really had his/her best interest in mind all along.

560 posted on 01/04/2002 8:35:57 AM PST by wai-ming
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