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To: jude24
"And can it be that Oh My God would die for me?"

There is not one worthy no not one!

26 posted on 03/16/2002 9:18:38 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
the Cross is the symbol of what it cost God to save my sorry butt - - for that I'm eternally grateful!
27 posted on 03/16/2002 9:27:17 AM PST by duckbutt
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To: RnMomof7, jude24, the_doc, CCWoody, BibChr, Jerry_M
By contrast, another current author joins Paul in glorying in the cross. Fleming Rutledge, a traveling Episcopal preacher who lives in Port Chester, N.Y., embraces the Book of Common Prayer's Communion affirmation that Jesus Christ made "a full, perfect, and sufficient sacrifice, oblation and satisfaction, for the sins of the whole world." Rutledge has collected seasonal meditations in her book The Undoing of Death (Eerdmans). Though sermons often fall flat on the printed page, this book is unusually readable devotional fare. She believes the cross is misunderstood if we forget that Jesus the Son is equally God along with the Father (which liberal Christians and Unitarians deny). And some conservatives portray "a wrathful Father piling condemnation on an innocent, victimized Son. This mistake must be strenuously resisted," she writes. The heart of the atoning sacrifice on the cross, Rutledge insists, is "the fact that the Father's will and the Son's will are one. This is an action that the Father and the Son are taking together." They are "accomplishing our redemption together," acting in united love for humanity.

Ahem....

Aside from the ridiculous idea of a God-created woman serving as a Presbyter (did God create Women to serve as servant-king husbands? Did God create Men to suckle His children at their very breasts? Let's be realistic, people -- we all have our proper Duties...)

Aside from that, I actually don't have a problem with this woman's theology (except as critically noted below).

The Cross was not a Transaction between God and Man.
The Cross was a Transaction between the Father and the Son.

God the Trinity: "This Race is... Fallen."God the Father: "If you will Atone, I will give you These."

God the Son: "I shall Atone, and they shall be Mine."

God the Spirit: "So it is written; so it shall be done."


39 posted on 03/17/2002 10:11:49 PM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian
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