To: jude24
"And can it be that Oh My God would die for me?"
There is not one worthy no not one!
26 posted on
03/16/2002 9:18:38 AM PST by
RnMomof7
To: RnMomof7
the Cross is the symbol of what it cost God to save my sorry butt - - for that I'm eternally grateful!
27 posted on
03/16/2002 9:27:17 AM PST by
duckbutt
To: RnMomof7, jude24, the_doc, CCWoody, BibChr, Jerry_M
By contrast, another current author joins Paul in glorying in the cross. Fleming Rutledge, a traveling Episcopal preacher who lives in Port Chester, N.Y., embraces the Book of Common Prayer's Communion affirmation that Jesus Christ made "a full, perfect, and sufficient sacrifice, oblation and satisfaction, for the sins of the whole world." Rutledge has collected seasonal meditations in her book The Undoing of Death (Eerdmans). Though sermons often fall flat on the printed page, this book is unusually readable devotional fare. She believes the cross is misunderstood if we forget that Jesus the Son is equally God along with the Father (which liberal Christians and Unitarians deny). And some conservatives portray "a wrathful Father piling condemnation on an innocent, victimized Son. This mistake must be strenuously resisted," she writes. The heart of the atoning sacrifice on the cross, Rutledge insists, is "the fact that the Father's will and the Son's will are one. This is an action that the Father and the Son are taking together." They are "accomplishing our redemption together," acting in united love for humanity.Ahem....
Aside from the ridiculous idea of a God-created woman serving as a Presbyter (did God create Women to serve as servant-king husbands? Did God create Men to suckle His children at their very breasts? Let's be realistic, people -- we all have our proper Duties...)
Aside from that, I actually don't have a problem with this woman's theology (except as critically noted below).
The Cross was not a Transaction between God and Man.
The Cross was a Transaction between the Father and the Son.
(the following skit is just OP's personal understanding of Scripture. Nothing is Infallible, save, of course, the Scripture cited herein...)
God the Trinity: "This Race is...
Fallen."
They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.... For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies. (Romans 3:12, 23; Psalm 58:3)
God the Father: "If you will Atone, I will give you These."
At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes. Even so, Father: for so it seemed good in thy sight. All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him. (Matthew 11: 25-27)
God the Son: "I shall Atone, and they shall be Mine."
Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word, That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish. (Ephesians 5:25-27)
God the Spirit: "So it is written; so it shall be done."
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ: According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.... In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will: That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ. In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that Holy Spirit of promise, Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory. (Ephesians 1: 3-6, 11-14)
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