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To: Askel5
I'll be darned ... you sound like dear Father White.

Yea, and Dr. Laura, who rails against couples living together.

I'm also firmly against baptizing babies unless the couple is married in the Church. Even when I was a deacon, twenty-five years ago, I'd run into (mostly) Hispanics who were married by JP's and wanted their child baptized.

Since there was no guarantee that the child would be raised in the Church, we regularly postponed baptism until after the couples had a marriage case filed in the tribunal, or until they were married in the Church.

Sacraments aren't "magic," after all.

31 posted on 04/08/2002 8:25:54 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: sinkspur
Oh no ... now there we disagree entirely.

I believe the sacraments are real and the seal of baptism is forever ... even if the person baptized (or those who got him baptized) might themselves be misguided or remain misguided through their own or by virtue of another's will.

I thought we discussed the sort of thing when the subject of "improper" celebration of the Mass came up recently?

What do you mean by "JP"?

33 posted on 04/08/2002 8:36:18 PM PDT by Askel5
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