[IGNATIUS]

Mom: I don't wish to be rude nor obtuse.But you guys all seem to be saying one will only know he is elect when/if one is called and responds--- but when so-called it means that he was always one of the elect.Sort of circular reasoning like.

Appears we can agree that the ways of our Triune God are not man's ways---nor (in a sense)does it really matter when we created beings cannot understand Him nor His methods of justice.

[RnMomof7]

Mom: I don't wish to be rude nor obtuse.But you guys all seem to be saying one will only know he is elect when/if one is called and responds--- but when so-called it means that he was always one of the elect.Sort of circular reasoning like.

If you die tonight where will you go? I am asking this with sincerity