[Polycarp]

Like I say, Wills is an old-fashioned Catholic--one might even say a conservative Catholic.

What a load of horse hockey.

[Polycarp]

All the Holy Spirit does is keep the church going in the long run, despite the idiocies of some of its leaders, and protect it from error in certain highly specific circumstances. That may not sound like much, but of course it's everything.

One decent line here though

ping

[Jeff Chandler]

one can understand his dismay that so many of the gains of the Second Vatican Council seem to have been needlessly squandered.

Okay, everyone repeat after me:

Post-Vatican II good; pre-Vatican II bad.