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(Catholic) Cardinal (Keeler) Issues Clarification On Evangelization of Jews
EWTN ^ | 21 Aug 2002 | EWTN news brief

Posted on 08/22/2002 11:59:09 AM PDT by patent

21-Aug-2002 -- EWTNews Brief

CARDINAL ISSUES CLARIFICATION ON EVANGELIZATION OF JEWS

BALTIMORE, Aug 20, 02 (CWNews.com) -- Cardinal William Keeler of Baltimore has issued a statement of clarification regarding a document released last week on Catholic-Jewish relations. The cardinal's statement emphasized that the document, released by a joint committee of Catholics and Jews, was a working document rather than an authoritative statement of belief.

The August 12 statement, entitled Reflections on Covenant and Mission, said that "campaigns that target Jews for conversion to Christianity are no longer theologically acceptable in the Catholic Church." The document, put forward by a working committee sponsored by the US bishops' conference and the Jewish Anti-Defamation League, provoked a very sharp reaction from many Catholics, who argued that it clashed directly with previous statements of defined Church doctrine.

Cardinal Keeler, who co-chaired the committee that produced the document, remarked that the statement "does not represent a formal position taken by the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops or the Bishops' Committee for Ecumenical and Inter-religious Affairs. The purpose of publicly issuing the considerations which it contains is to encourage serious reflection on these matters by Jews and Catholics in the US."

The cardinal's statement continued: "These considerations provide a basis for discussing both the similarities and the significant differences between the Christian and Jewish understandings of the call given by the one God to both peoples."




Also, from the NCCBUSCC website:

`Reflections' Represent Present State of Dialogue, Cardinal Says


WASHINGTON (August 16, 2002) –- Cardinal William H. Keeler of Baltimore said today that a document made public August 12 represents the state of thought among the participants of a dialogue that has been going on for a number of years between the U.S. Catholic Church and the Jewish community in this country.

Cardinal Keeler, the U.S. Bishops' Moderator for Catholic-Jewish relations, said that the document, entitled Reflections on Covenant and Mission, does not represent a formal position taken by the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) or the Bishops' Committee for Ecumenical and Interreligious Affairs (BCEIA). The purpose of publicly issuing the considerations which it contains is to encourage serious reflection on these matters by Jews and Catholics in the U.S.

These considerations provide a basis for discussing both the similarities and the significant differences between the Christian and Jewish understandings of the call given by the one God to both peoples.

Cardinal Keeler said that, within the Catholic community, there has been a growing respect for the Jewish tradition and the lasting covenant which God made with them. Judaism is "already a response to God's revelation in the Old Covenant" (Catechism of the Catholic Church #839), a response to God's grace that requires religious freedom and respect for the faith relationship between God and the human person. This same respect for the freedom of faith requires us to be open at the same time to the action of God's grace to bring any person to accept what Catholic belief understands as the fullness of the means of salvation which are found in the Church.

Participants in the ongoing consultation are delegates of the BCEIA of the USCCB and the National Council of Synagogues (NCS) which represents the Central Conference of American Rabbis, the Rabbinical Assembly of Conservative Judaism, the Union of American Hebrew Congregations, and the United Synagogue of Conservative Judaism.

The Reflections derive from a meeting which the BCEIA-NCS Consultation held in New York last March.








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If I can offer my humble translational services, translating Cardinalspeak into English, he said: "Ooops, my bad."

patent

1 posted on 08/22/2002 11:59:09 AM PDT by patent
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To: Polycarp; Siobhan; NYer; Salvation; narses
A couple bumps to bumpers.

FYI, I seem to have lost my bump list. I am going to start regenerating it. Please let me know if you would like to be added. If you were on the old one, and would like on this one, please let me know, as I have a horrible memory and do not have any recollection of who was on there.

patent

2 posted on 08/22/2002 12:01:28 PM PDT by patent
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To: patent
What? Did the Great Commission get expunged from their bibles? BTTT
3 posted on 08/22/2002 12:04:24 PM PDT by lodwick
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To: patent
Humorous. They release a position paper, and then deny that they have taken a position.
4 posted on 08/22/2002 12:05:53 PM PDT by B Knotts
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To: patent
This is what happens when the faithful have a true voice.

The bishops get called on their "bads" and are forced to backtrack.

5 posted on 08/22/2002 12:07:14 PM PDT by Desdemona
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To: patent
Cardinal William H. Keeler of Baltimore said today that a document made public August 12 represents the state of thought among the participants of a dialogue that has been going on for a number of years between the U.S. Catholic Church and the Jewish community in this country.

I guess the Cardinal may need to rethink his "state of thought" now that the cat's out of the bag. It would be fascinating to hear how this "dialogue" got to the point where this Cardinal thought he could float a heresy like this.

(patent - please add me to your bump list)

6 posted on 08/22/2002 12:10:58 PM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: patent
a working document = A DRAFT
7 posted on 08/22/2002 12:21:02 PM PDT by NYer
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To: patent
Note: It doesn't matter what this US Cardinal says. The Church in Rome already considers this as Church Doctrine. The US Cardinal can say whatever he wants, the Church in Rome will still regard the document's position as official.

Here's the first article that reported on it.


Rome Strikes Second Coming
Deal With Jews
Eric J. Greenberg - Staff Writer
The Jewish Week
7-23-2


In 1967, during the early thaw of Catholic-Jewish relations, Rabbi Irving "Yitz" Greenberg addressed a Catholic audience about the conflicting Messiah beliefs.

The Orthodox rabbi noted that one difference between Jews and Catholics is whether the Messiah is coming for the first or second time. Christians believe the Messiah - a Jew from Nazareth called Jesus - came 2,000 years ago, and after dying and being resurrected, will someday return to redeem the world.

Jews say the Messiah has yet to arrive - a belief that led to centuries of Christian anti-Semitism and killings of Jews who refused to accept the Christian view.

Rabbi Greenberg suggested the dispute be tabled until the Messiah arrives. When the Messiah comes, Jews and Christians "can ask him if this is his first coming or his second," finally putting the issue to rest.

But this week, the Messiah debate suddenly took center stage in Jewish-Catholic relations, in an appropriately bizarre and mysterious manner.

It follows the revelation last week that the Vatican's top biblical scholars recently issued a report that for the first time in nearly 2,000 years apparently validates as legitimate the Jewish wait for the Messiah.

A 210-page document titled "The Jewish People and the Holy Scriptures in the Christian Bible," by the Pontifical Biblical Commission and authorized by the Vatican's top theologian, Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, reportedly states that "the Jewish messianic wait is not in vain."

It reportedly says Jews and Christians share their wait for the Messiah, although Jews are waiting for the first coming and Christians for the second.

The new document also reportedly contains an apology to the Jewish people for anti-Semitic passages contained in the New Testament, and also stresses the continuing importance of the Torah for Christians.

The book comes to light as anti-Semitism appears to be increasing around the world from Christian and Muslim sources.

For example, the Associated Press reported this week that Russian prosecutors are investigating an anti-Semitic Russian Orthodox Church priest, Sergei Nilus, who allegedly openly calls Jews the antichrist and enemies of Christianity.

But despite the potential significance of the new Vatican document, it was seemingly buried upon publication, quietly placed in bookstores in Rome last November. There was no press conference or public announcement, unlike many other important Vatican documents such as the 1999 "We Remember" Holocaust report.

In fact, the world was unaware of the new "Messiah doctrine" until last Friday, when The New York Times published a story about it based on a short report two days earlier by the Italian news agency ANSA.

"Everything in the report is now considered part of official Church doctrine," Vatican spokesman Joaquin Navarro-Valls acknowledged after it became public.

Despite its potential significance, the document still was unavailable in English this week, being translated only in Italian, French and Polish. Further, the Vatican did not post it on its Web site in any language.

"For the time being the document ... will not be available [on] the Internet," the Pontifical Biblical Commission told one American rabbi Monday, adding, "an English translation will be available [in] days."

That left American Jewish and Catholic interfaith leaders scrambling this week for any information.

Initial speculation generally was positive, even as the interfaith leaders stressed that they were speaking without having seen the text. They also all questioned the "strange" behavior of the Vatican in failing to publicize such a significant document.

"The way it was released is extremely strange," said Father John Pawlikowski, director of the Catholic Jewish Studies Program at the Catholic Theological Union in Chicago. "Normally they launch these things with fanfare and press conferences. Also the lack of an authorized English translation is particularly disturbing."

"It's very strange, " said Michael Signer, professor of Jewish Thought and Culture at the University of Notre Dame. "This is not the most salutary way this could have been done."

In Rome, Vatican officials denied they tried to hide the document fearing criticism from right-wing Catholics who oppose theological change.

"There was no intention to hide it," said a Vatican spokesman, the Rev. Ciro Benedettini.

In the United States, Eugene Fisher, ecumenical director for the National Conference of Catholic Bishops, blamed a Vatican leadership that is understaffed and "clueless" about what is important to world interest.

But Fisher, who said he saw an English draft of the text last year, expounded on its importance. He noted that the theologically conservative Cardinal Ratzinger - the second most powerful person in the Vatican after the Pope - signed off on it.

Ironically, it is the same Cardinal Ratzinger who alarmed Jewish leaders last year when he declared that the Church is waiting for the moment when Jews will "say yes to Christ."

Asked if Jews must, or should, acknowledge Jesus as the Messiah, Cardinal Ratzinger told an interviewer, "We believe that. The fact remains, however, that our Christian conviction is that Christ is also the Messiah of Israel."

How that declaration squares with the new "Messiah document" was a source of much speculation this week. But Fisher contended it's a major positive development.

"If you put off the moment that Jews will come to recognize Jesus as the Messiah until the end of time, then we don't need to work or pray for the conversion of Jews to Christianity," he said. "God already has the salvation of Jews figured out, and they accepted it on Sinai, so they are OK."

"Jews are already with the Father," he continued. "We do not have a mission to the Jews, but only a mission with the Jews to the world. The Catholic Church will never again sanction an organization devoted to the conversion of the Jews. That is over, on doctrinal, biblical and pastoral grounds. Finito."

Signer, also a Reform rabbi said, "What's really new is the validation of the Jewish position as truth, that the Jewish waiting for the Messiah is a correct theological viewpoint. If the document says what we think, it is another very important theological step in the respect for Judaism as a living tradition."

"It's a very important, critical statement," said Rabbi Jack Bemporad, head of the Center for Interreligious Understanding. "Up until now they were saying Jews are completely and absolutely wrong and we are waiting in vain and blind to the truth."

Others were more cautious, noting continued significant differences in Messiah beliefs - particularly that Christians believe that their Messiah is Jesus who is also God, while for Jews the Messiah is not a divine being and cannot be Jesus because he died before bringing the redemption.

Rabbi James Rudin, senior interreligious adviser to the American Jewish Committee, raised several concerns.

"Does the new book instruct Catholics to fully accept the fact there is not only theological space in God's universe for Jews/Judaism, but they must also affirm that the identity of long awaited Messiah, so ardently prayed for by Jews for centuries, is unknown and will remain unknown until the Messiah appears?" he asked.

"That is a clear affirmation of Judaism with no theological strings attached, no Jesus waiting for Jews at the end of the theological day. If this is the book's message, then it is an important step forward on the part of the Catholic Church."

Father Pawlikowski stressed that the new document also appears to affirm the importance of the "Jewish Bible," a new term for the Vatican that he said would be highly significant if it replaces the traditional "Old Testament," which has a negative implication as being replaced by the "New Testament."

"The document seems to say that Christians should never deprecate or see the Jewish Bible as inferior, which coming from major Vatican biblical scholars could have profound implications for Catholic religious and educational material," Father Pawlikowski said.

All the scholars said the next step is for the Vatican to make available the English translation as soon as possible so it can be studied.

"We hope to see it before the Messiah," quipped one frustrated interfaith expert.

http://www.thejewishweek.com/news/newscontent.php3?artid=5649#top
8 posted on 08/22/2002 12:21:17 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man
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To: Secret Agent Man
The Church in Rome already considers this as Church Doctrine.
No it doesn't. You citing newspaper articles, the same type of thing that seemed to think a draft document from a committe of the American Bishops somehow bound Rome with their document.

patent

9 posted on 08/22/2002 12:28:39 PM PDT by patent
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To: Secret Agent Man
Wrong, you're confusing two different documents and two different events.

This article you cited is reporting about a different document, issued last year by the Vatican's Pontifical Biblical Commission, which is available in English translation on the Vatican website. (The article you posted, which says it isn't, is very old.)

And the Vatican document Jewish Week is talking about is quite orthodox. JW misrepresented it almost completely. (In fairness, it doesn't look like they actually read it, just went by what other people thought it contained.)

The American bishops' committee document (which is what this thread was originally about) is not orthodox, though not as awful as some of the news reports would have it. It has also not been approved by Rome. (It won't even be submitted to them; it's just a committee position paper.) And even the head of the committee, Cardinal Keeler, is backpedaling away from it.

10 posted on 08/22/2002 12:35:08 PM PDT by Campion
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To: Desdemona
This is what happens when the faithful have a true voice.

This is what happens when a man-made religion believes that it's man-made doctrines superceed the Word of God as revealed in the Bible.

11 posted on 08/22/2002 12:35:47 PM PDT by berned
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To: patent
The August 12 statement, entitled Reflections on Covenant and Mission, said that "campaigns that target Jews for conversion to Christianity are no longer theologically acceptable in the Catholic Church."

Uh-oh. Do Jesus and the Apostles know about this?

12 posted on 08/22/2002 12:38:30 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: berned
You are a good example of what happens when one apostatizes from the true religion founded by Jesus Christ, finds teachers who make your own itching ears feel good, and follows those false teachers into one heresy after another.
13 posted on 08/22/2002 12:38:34 PM PDT by Campion
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To: pabianice
Uh-oh. Do Jesus and the Apostles know about this?
I’d bet they’ve heard the news by now.

patent  +AMDG

14 posted on 08/22/2002 12:39:31 PM PDT by patent
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To: berned
"This is what happens when a man-made religion believes that it's man-made doctrines superceed the Word of God as revealed in the Bible."

First off, the founder of the Catholic Church was/is Jesus. We are His followers.

Second, NOTHING superceeds His word. Our traditions developed to help us fulfill His will.

Third, the bishops are trying to sneak stuff past us (the only people who seem to know the catechism)

Fourth, if you're not Catholic, don't worry about it.

15 posted on 08/22/2002 12:40:23 PM PDT by Desdemona
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To: Campion
You are a good example of what happens when one apostatizes from the true religion founded by Jesus Christ, finds teachers who make your own itching ears feel good, and follows those false teachers into one heresy after another.

Matthew 28:19-20

Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you.

John 14

6 Jesus told him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one can come to the Father except through me.

16 posted on 08/22/2002 12:52:07 PM PDT by berned
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To: berned
All of which is Catholic doctrine.

patent

17 posted on 08/22/2002 2:31:06 PM PDT by patent
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To: Campion
Berned is simply an ignorant heretic who can't spell.
18 posted on 08/22/2002 3:08:03 PM PDT by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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To: patent
Another example of CYA backpeddling from the inept episcopacy.
19 posted on 08/22/2002 3:09:22 PM PDT by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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To: SMEDLEYBUTLER
What is heretical about sticking to what the Bible says, and posting clearly what the Bible says when it contradicts what some made-up false religion tries to brainwash people into believing?
20 posted on 08/22/2002 4:41:21 PM PDT by berned
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