[sitetest]

Dear ultima,

"Nevertheless, I will grant that the Novus Ordo is valid, generally speaking. But having said that, this is not saying much. A Black Mass, too, is valid, but that doesn't make it a good thing."

The words of one who no longer loves the Catholic Church, comparing the normative Mass of the Latin Rite to a black Mass.

sitetest

[MarMema]

If you don't believe that ritual matters, why are you Catholic? And if you believe that ritual matters, then why isn't it also true that the correct ritual matters?

Ritual itself is about how something is done.

[JMJ333]

When cornered the truth comes out of him. Comparative to a Black Mass indeed. It seems to me that he is quick to label as evil that which is merely different and distasteful to him. If God points to someone and says, “Obey him,” I don’t think it’s unreasonable to think that He will also judge how well I obeyed the one He told me to obey. He has all sorts of arcane, hair-splitting, legalistic rationalizations to excuse himself from that command.