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The Cardinal's Superdome
The American Prowler ^
| September 3, 2002
| George Neumayr
Posted on 09/03/2002 10:26:06 AM PDT by NYer
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To: narses
It certainly won't last a generation as a Catholic building unless it becomes one at some point. Maybe, if the scandals bankrupt the LA Archdiocese, maybe the US Bankruptcy judge can persuade some maroon of a creditor to take it away.
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posted on
09/03/2002 4:52:55 PM PDT
by
BlackElk
To: BlackElk
It certainly won't last a generation as a Catholic building unless it becomes one at some point. My sentiments exactly.
To: Over50Million
AC, do you mean Desde's use of the term "facility"? Depends on whose asking... ;-)
To: american colleen
To: EODGUY
It's not a total disaster. They can still use it to house the space shuttle.
To: Sock
Why they are barfoot I can not answer, but the picture looks to me like they are incensing the altar. This is often done at Easter and Christmas. But usually by the priest with altar boys and the MC along with him.
To: NYer
Take a closer look at that picture.There are kneelers. Do you see the different color and then a dark line down the pew where the next kneeler starts? It's the space between the kneelers in the two sections.
To: NYer
You know, I think a future Cardinal Archbishop of Los Angeles could really do something with this monstrosity. First, wall off about 2/3 of it and use the space as a homeless shelter/soup kitchen/orphanage/hospital. Second, de-wreckovate the "worship area" to have an identifiable nave, apse, choir loft, etc. Honestly, it's so big, a future Cardinal with some serious creativity could build a real functional cathedral inside this thing.
To: Antoninus
Dear Antoninus,
Okay for the interior.
But what about the outside?
sitetest
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posted on
09/03/2002 7:14:58 PM PDT
by
sitetest
To: NYer
This monstrous building is so cold, stark, and dead. Just like Roger Mahony's faith.
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posted on
09/03/2002 7:19:52 PM PDT
by
Palladin
To: sinkspur
money spent on a building dedicated to the One who had nowhere to lay is head is scandalous, to meSinky, would you recommend a sleeping bag instead?
To: Salvation
In looking at the picture a little more carefully, they seem to be wearing flesh colored booties. It probably provides better traction and insulation from those cold marble floors.
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posted on
09/03/2002 7:29:02 PM PDT
by
Sock
To: NYer
Interesting how Mahoney used disinformation to get his monstrosity built. He told the faithful it would "cost too much" to repair St. Vibiana's--$50 million. Then he raises $200 million for his brand new airport hanger--er--cathedral. Anybody wonder where the body of St. Vibiana--a gift for the Los Angelos faithful a hundred years ago by Pius IX--now reposes? It was unceremoniously dumped in an unmarked hole in the ground--no ceremony, no marker, no nothing. So much for the veneration of the saints--a custom of the old religion. This new showplace is dedicated to the spirit of Vatican II. Hmmmmmmm.....
To: heyheyhey
Sinky, would you recommend a sleeping bag instead? No. But a Church with the price of a sports stadium is a bit much, don't you think?
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posted on
09/03/2002 7:44:36 PM PDT
by
sinkspur
To: sinkspur
"Why this waste of perfume? It could have been sold for more than a year's wages and the money given to the poor." And they rebuked her harshly. "Leave her alone," said Jesus. "Why are you bothering her? She has done a beautiful thing to me. The poor you will always have with you, and you can help them any time you want. Sounds familiar?
To: heyheyhey
Ah, yes. The Magdalen quote.
Well, it's one thing to pour perfume. Quite another to spend the Gross National Product of a small country on a building, don't you think?
Of course, if it's going to be done, better that it come from a Rupert Murdoch, than from the widow's mite.
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posted on
09/03/2002 7:55:40 PM PDT
by
sinkspur
To: ultima ratio
Dear ultima,
"Anybody wonder where the body of St. Vibiana--a gift for the Los Angelos faithful a hundred years ago by Pius IX--now reposes? It was unceremoniously dumped in an unmarked hole in the ground--no ceremony, no marker, no nothing. So much for the veneration of the saints--a custom of the old religion."
Hmmm...
That seems to be at odds with what I found here, at the official website of the Cathedral Chapel of St. Vibiana:
http://www.cathedralchapel.org/frontpageinfo/history.htm
From this website:
"Her remains were secured in the downtown Cathedral which bears her name until they were recently carefully removed for safekeeping until the new Cathedral is finished. Though the new Cathedral will be named Our Lady Queen of the Angels for Mary, a special Chapel will built in St. Vibianas name."
It appears that her remains have been moved from the old cathedral to be moved ultimately to a new chapel for her in the new cathedral.
That wasn't quite communicated in your post, ultima.
sitetest
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posted on
09/03/2002 7:56:50 PM PDT
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sitetest
To: sinkspur
Usually the money goes into a presidential palance/his Swiss bank account.
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posted on
09/03/2002 8:05:18 PM PDT
by
RobbyS
To: sinkspur
To: ultima ratio
Anybody wonder where the body of St. Vibiana--a gift for the Los Angelos faithful a hundred years ago by Pius IX--now reposes? It was unceremoniously dumped in an unmarked hole in the ground--no ceremony, no marker, no nothing. So much for the veneration of the saints--a custom of the old religion. I pray that Providence will spare the remains of St. Vibiana from being reinterred within the false cathedral of a false bishop who has sold crypts to such outstanding Catholics as Rubert Murdoch and Richard Riordan.
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