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To: RnMomof7
The difference between Mack and Becky and me..is in the order of Salvation.

Since I'm not going to read through that whole "Spurgeon's View of the Millennium" thread, can you briefly summarize from your perspective what the differences are between your beliefs and Mack's? Is it just the predestination thing, or is there more?

82 posted on 09/30/2002 1:53:36 PM PDT by malakhi
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To: angelo
That is not a one word answer...The order of salvation is seen differently because of the way we view the fall in the garden and the result to man

Reform doctrine says man is spiritually dead because of the fall...that means he must be Born again( regenerated )before he can desire to be saved..

Eph 2:1 And you [hath he quickened], who were dead in trespasses and sins;

Until then man can not see or desire God .Jhn 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

Arminians believe that man is not quite dead from the fall and has enough spiritual life to desire God and choose Christ. They would believe he is not born again (regenerated ) UNTIL he is saved

So to me the order is..regeneration (born again), repentance ,conversion (saved)

To Mack and Becky the order would be repentance,conversion (saved), regenerated into a new creature..(born again)

93 posted on 09/30/2002 2:10:41 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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