[patent]

I'm someone who had often alternated between concern over the sheer numbers of saints elevated and agreement that they were worthy people. After reading this, I found it very heartening that those who object to the numbers of new saints are all wacky dissenters. Ratzinger's comment also made great sense, it is the Church's job after all.

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[patent]

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[onedoug]

Reluctant to take issue out of respect for you, I would yet say, as we've exchanged on threads before, that I remain very disturbed at this Pope's sense of moral relativism. Hence I would certainly once again be interested in your take on this thread, #s 6, 10 & 11.

God's continuing grace to you.

[ultima ratio]

"Those who object are all wacky dissenters," according to you. How do you know this? Merely because a journalist in USA Today cites only people like McBrien? This proves nothing--least of all that those who object are ALL wacky dissenters. It is not wacky to believe that a man who was short-tempered, dishonest and vain should not be canonized.

[ThomasMore]

''What's the rush? If someone is really in heaven, we'll find out in time,'' says the Rev. Richard McBrien

This one obviously doesn't believe in intercessory prayer.

It's funny, patent; there are so many unchurched in the world, and all these nut-cases have to do is complain about a busy and active old shepherd. JPII has been a thorn in their side for his entire pontificate. I hope he reigns another twenty years!

[WriteOn]

I think that you ought to expect more saints in times of trouble, but also on a sheer statistical basis, many more of us than there used to be: what is it now 1 billion Catholics?

As long as the 2 miracles rule stays in place and they continue to pursue them diligently, great. It is the Church's job.

[Dajjal]

For more on Msgr. Escriva's shortcomings, see:

"Leopards In The Temple" by John Martin (excerpt)

"Blessed be pain. Loved be pain. Sanctified be pain. . . Glorified be pain!"

Corporal Mortification in Opus Dei