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To: ultima ratio
Yes, but the end-game is not devotion, it is the eventual destruction of the entirety of our Catholic heritage

Do you TRULY believe that praying an extra set of Mysteries to the Rosary which concentrate on Jesus' works here on Earth could destroy the Church? I fail to understand how Devotion to Jesus and his Mother could be harmful in any way.

The changes to the Rosary can only be harmful if people continue to snipe at everything this Pope tries to do to bring the True Faith to people where they are today. Many Catholics today, as a result of folks using Vatican II as a smokescreen to 'modernize' away from Jesus, have lost any true connection to Jesus' ministry on Earth. If the addition of these simple 5 mysteries will bring more people to this beautiful prayer, it can only do good.

We need to stop treating devotions which have been added to the practice of our Faith, like they were written on the stone tablets brought down by Moses. Devotions have changed over the years, and will continue to do so. Instead of crying and rending our garments when it happens, let's just turn our eyes toward Jesus. He'll set things right for us, either by turning peoples' hearts to make the devotions the best they can be, or by turning ours so we won't be so darned mired in the past that we can't see the fruits of the devotions, which after all, is why we attend them.

31 posted on 11/10/2002 12:58:13 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ
The SSPX pitcher winds up and sends a screaming ultima ratio straight over the plate. Batting cleanup for the Catholic team with bases loaded, SuziQ swings and connects to the sound of horsepatoot on ash. UR is high, he is far and he IS GONE!!!!! The Catholics winnnnnn. Thuhuhuhuh Catholics winnnnnn! [Apologies if you are a Red Sox fan for using a patented Yankee broadcast closing call, but)..... The fans are going to remember that tater for a long, long time to come!]
40 posted on 11/10/2002 4:09:07 PM PST by BlackElk
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To: SuziQ
You, like others, have focused on this minor business of the rosary. I keep responding to each of you, but none of you seem to get the message. The added mysteries are nothing but further symptoms of the modernist disease. It is not even that significant, compared to other changes. But it is still another push to scrap traditional Catholicism. So far in the revolution the Mass has been protestantized, our churches have had their tabernacles shunted aside, their communion rails ripped out, in some places even the kneelers have been removed. There is not a single sacrament that has not undergone major overhaul. Our sacred music has been scrapped. Our religious orders have collapsed, as have our missions around the world. Our seminaries have become playgrounds for sexually active gays. Our Catholic theologies have been scrapped, our Catholic devotions have been scrapped, our Catholic literature has been scrapped, our Catholic doctrines have been suppressed. Communion is taken in the hands and kneeling for communion has been eliminated. Cardinals and bishops are in open apostasy across the globe. Meanwhile the Pope venerates the Koran and pours libations to animist spirits in a Togo forest and elevates heretics to the cardinalate. He thus performs acts that can only be interpreted as idolatrous and irresponsible. THAT is what's going on. My reference to the rosary is merely to just another novelty. Pretty routine really, though it is prelude to still more drastic changes. In a few years nothing of the original rosary will be left. What is really happening is that the conciliar Church is imposing a new religion. To achieve their ends, the faithful are being acclimated to these gradual changes until finally nothing of the ancient faith--which had been virtually unchanged for two thousand years--remains or can even be remembered.
43 posted on 11/10/2002 5:03:50 PM PST by ultima ratio
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