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To: xzins
Now you come to the amillennialist and the amillennialist basically says there is no Kingdom. Or better and more fair, all the kingdom there is is what we've got now.
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They either would try to put it into history, or make it all figurative. They would either take the book of Revelation and make it describe the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 A.D., or they would just make it figuratively, a non-literal interpretation of kingdom passages.
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They would say all the promises of the kingdom, for example, to Israel in the Old Testament, all the promises of the Kingdom to Israel will be fulfilled in the church in the church age right now. We are the Israel of God. There's no future for Israel. God will never revive Israel. They'll never be redeemed as a nation. They'll never go back into a kingdom. There never will be a real throne in Jerusalem. That's all figurative stuff. Everything is fulfilled in the church.

"Once, having been asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, Jesus replied "The kingdom of God does not come with your careful observation, nor will people say, 'Here it is,' or 'There it is,' because the kingdom of God is within you." Luke 17:21

11 posted on 11/15/2002 12:14:16 PM PST by Pahuanui
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To: Pahuanui
because the kingdom of God is within you

Your use of the word "within" is an interesting translation there. Are you saying that Jesus was telling the Pharisees that the kingdom of God was within them??

Do you believe that the rest of this chapter... verses 22 through 37 add any meaning to verses 20-21?

12 posted on 11/15/2002 1:12:56 PM PST by kjam22
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To: Pahuanui
"Once, having been asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, Jesus replied "The kingdom of God does not come with your careful observation, nor will people say, 'Here it is,' or 'There it is,' because the kingdom of God is within you." Luke 17:21

Christ was talking to the Pharisees who he called at various times m “hypocrites”, “blind guides,” who “omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy and faith,” who were “full of extortion and excess,” who were like “whited sepulchers [whitewashed tombs], which appeared beautiful outward, but...within [were] full of dead men’s bones, and of all uncleanness”.

Knowing this it's a tough call to say that kingdom of God was within them. The word translated "within" in the King James is more accurately translated "in the midst of". Christ was certainly among them, in the midst of them, and as the future king of a milleniel and then everlasting kingdom he exactly represented the kingdom of God.

26 posted on 11/16/2002 7:39:42 AM PST by DouglasKC
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