[Desdemona]

I read this earlier and, yes, there are many things about it which are very disturbing. The Carmen lady needs...it involves a dirty sock and duct tape. I try not to be too violent.

Believe it or not, there are many people in the church who don't like the touchy-feely and avoid it. Just as much as those who do like it flock to it. The hand-holding, unless it's a spouse, it just too creepy.

So, it's not all lost. Many younger people don't like the public displays. It smacks too much of fakeness.

All hope is not lost yet.

[ultima ratio]

You write, "All hope is not lost yet."

No, but Catholics should realize we are fighting a war: between traditional Catholicism and this new religion; between the pre-conciliar Church and this New Church. One or the other is right. If you opt for the latter--then you argue that we've been wrong up to Vatican II. In so saying, you undermine the credibility of EVERYTHING.