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<> There used to be a time when everyone used to recieve Comunion in the hands. Woods is a convert who desires to tell the Pope what real Catholics do. He is a joke

Ecclesia Dei gave The Indult to end the schism but is was given with the expressed condition that those attached to it would cease atacking the Missa Normativa and the Second Vatican Council.

They are slowly stangling themsleves with ceaseless attacks against Divinely-Constituted authority. They are disobeying the spirit and the letter of the Ecclesia Dei law. That is not surprising. They are spiritually and intellectually protestants and they are dooming what they claim to love...Go figure.

What is pathetic is that those who claim to love the 1962 Roman Missal encourage their mouthpieces in their sucidial actions. That illustrates the schismatic mindeset that suffuses the Indult crowd. The next Pope is likely to rescind the Indult given their enmity to authority

And throw the baby out with the bathwater again? I don't know, CG. There's room for both. But, there does need to be tighter control or the abuses in both are going to destroy it all.

They are spiritually and intellectually protestants and they are dooming what they claim to love...Go figure.

What is pathetic is that those who claim to love the 1962 Roman Missal encourage their mouthpieces in their sucidial actions. That illustrates the schismatic mindset that suffuses the Indult crowd.

Spot on CG!

The author provides no way to corroborate his claim. Just an unsubstantiated rumor to get the horses saddled. I'm thinking that if an indult needs a eucharistic minister, it speaks to the popularity of that particular mass, that one priest can't distribute communion in a timely fashion. There must be hundreds of communicants. Hooray! But no. The schismatics will say that because of this one instance, the Vatican ( the pope pulls all the strings of the billion strong adherents you know) is "foisting" EM's on the indult crowd. That's like me, going to the local convenience store on Christmas eve, observing that it is closed, and remarking that well, all the convenience stores are closed fom now on. What a travesty!

It is precisely because of this type of illogic and radical paranoia that they are not taken seriously, and are viewed with utmost skepticism. They think that they are upholding the faith when in reality , they demonstrate their sublime lack of faith. Yes, it is suicidal, because it is not inappropriate to deduce that this lack of faith, paranoia, and irrationality is related to their adherence to the traditional mass community that is outside the local ordinary's authority. Not that the mass itself creates that kind of mentality, but rather their personalized justification for having made the decisions they have. Their hatred for anything outside their own understanding or experience has made them into mind - numbed clones who tilt at windmills. Etc. Etc.

Sigh.

Your argument regarding the Indult is pathetic in the face of the disobedience of Novus Ordo bishops--which has been widespread and blatant from the beginning of this papacy but which is wholly tolerated. The Indult crowd, on the other hand, has been fairly docile and quiet from the moment it came on the scene. When it occasionally speaks out--as some of their theologians did in Elmhurst--their people are summarily slapped down and fired--without being allowed any redress--something Rome has never done with liberal theologians who may deny the faith to their heart's content without so much as a peep from the Vatican. So clearly there's a double standard. Amazing how much corruption and apostasy Rome will tolerate, but how little traditionalism it can stand.

But you are correct as to why the Indult was granted in the first place. It was designed to split the SSPX, to divide and conquer it, not to show consideration for traditionalists--which was the phony reason the Pope gave publicly in his letter. The entire assault against SSPX has been politically motivated, as had been the continuous pressure brought to bear against Archbishop Lefebvre after the Council since he alone dared to keep the old faith, the only thing NOT to be permitted in the New Church. All else was open for grabs, but not the desire to keep what had been our heritage for two thousand years.

Your attempt to paint traditionalists as Protestants because they resist a bad pope is ludicrous in any case-- precisely because it is this Pope and his minions who have been relentlessly pushing a new Protestantism on the faithful, who have turned around the altars as Luther did, who have thrown out the Offertory as Luther did, who have signed a decree on justification with Lutherans which gives assent to the Protestant, not the Catholic, theological perspective.

Traditionalists, on the other hand, abide by the ancient Catholic faith and put this faith before even the papacy itself, which they rightly understand exists precisely to defend the faith above all else--something this pope does not do. Traditionalists believe what has been HANDED-DOWN from apostolic times, not what has been newly minted by a pope who exceeds his authority. In this they remain most truly Catholic, however few in number.