- And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.
- As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
The good are not estranged from the womb, sink. But humans who are "good" (that is, Righteous in God's Eyes) at conception? Aside from the Roman "immaculate conception" dogma re: Mary, that's a numerical subset of exactly one (1) human being -- Jesus of Nazareth.
All other humans since Adam are conceived in Original Sin.
You are free to pull obscure Old Testament quotations to try to prove that unbaptized infants are in hell.
Sink... Didn't you take SEVEN years of Comparative Theology, or some such?
Are you ignorant of the doctrines of Calvinism, or just wilfully misrepresenting them (personal foul on your part, Commandment IX)?
Since Calvinists do not believe in the Roman dogma of "baptismal regeneration", we do not believe that those whom God has ordained to die in Infancy are denied from being made recipients of Irresistible Sovereign Grace. We believe that God saves whomsoever He chooses to save.
- John Calvin, the sixteenth-century Reformer for whom Calvinism is named, asserted, "I do not doubt that the infants whom the Lord gathers together from this life are regenerated by a secret operation of the Holy Ghost." And "he speaks of the exemption of infants from the grace of salvation 'as an idea not free from execrable blasphemy'" (cited by Augustus Strong in Systematic Theology). He furthermore declared that "to say that the countless mortals taken from life while yet infants are precipitated from their mothers' arms into eternal death is a blasphemy to be universally detested" (quoted in Presbyterian and Reformed Review, Oct. 1890: pp.634-51). ~~ CALVINISM: ITS DOCTRINE OF INFANT SALVATION GOOD NEWS FROM THE REDEEMER JULY 5, 1997 RADIO MESSAGE #172)
Do remember your seven years of comparative theology -- we Calvinists believe in Biblical Sovereign Grace, not Romanist "baptismal-effected" Grace.
That is the god you believe in, who would bring a creature to life to condemn it to hell, through no fault of its own. It is nonsensical, on its face, and contrary to the Mercy and Justice of God, but, hey, it's what I expect from all of you.
I see... Straw People!!
They don't even know that they're Straw Men!!
Calvinists do not believe that "god... would bring a creature to life to condemn it to hell, through no fault of its own".
- ELECTION CONFIRMED BY THE CALLING OF GOD. THE REPROBATE BRING UPON THEMSELVES THE RIGHTEOUS DESTRUCTION TO WHICH THEY ARE DOOMED. -- John Calvin, Institutes of the Christian Religion, Book III ch. 24 (Chapter Title)
Calvinism teaches God's Judgment falls upon Men specifically on account of their Sins.
Wanna try again, in the Bonus Round?
I don't expect kid-gloves in a theological discussion. But after SEVEN YEARS of Comparative Theology, I do expect at least a faint modicum of learning.
I'm not going to accuse you of having SLEPT through your Comparative Theology classes, Sink, so don't act like it.
Have a Happy New Year, in fear and trembling.
Thanks!! God bless you and yours.
Maranatha, OP