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That is exactly my point, indirectly. If what you claim is true, it is up to US to stand up for what is beautiful and true and our Church, not merely denounce the misguided leaders of the Church on Earth and claim they're not Catholic. I went to daily Mass today, and the pastor of the church delivered a great homily today, reminding us that JESUS is the head of the Church, not imperfect humans. If what they are doing is merely to appease Protestants, they would have gotten rid of statues and icons of Jesus and saints LONG AGO. While I am clearly sympathetic to the current Pope, who I think is a great man and a hero of the Cold War, I am not going to be forced to take any side in this important manner. Some of my opinions belong to the "traditionalist" camp, and some belong to the "neo-conservative" camp. I have made up my own mind on this, through discernment, reflection, and reason, and I look for the day when Jesus will heal the wounds between ALL Christians.

"it is up to US to stand up for what is beautiful and true and our Church, not merely denounce the misguided leaders of the Church on Earth and claim they're not Catholic"

I never said they are not Catholic. They can be Catholic and wrong. Some, though, are heretical and therefore not Catholic.

As for standing up for what is beautiful and true--what do you think I am doing? Catholics are obliged to resist. That is what I am doing.

If what you claim is true, it is up to US to stand up for what is beautiful and true and our Church, not merely denounce the misguided leaders of the Church on Earth and claim they're not Catholic.

Thank you for verbalizing the point I was also trying to make. Ultima ratio and the other sspxers prefer the easy way out ... follow a schismatic group ... rather than stand up to the liberal element and speak the truth.