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To: patent
The only response you make to my post is to nitpick the spelling?

Untrue.

My response was that the Scribes knew that "only God could forgive sins", but could not understand that Jesus was God.

The normal Catholic response is that "only God can forgive sins, but God does it through a priest."

That is why I posted the incident from Acts where Peter refered Simon the Sorcerer directly to God for forgiveness. Simon them asked Peter to pray for him. Christians, like Peter, pray for each other all the time. There is not any indication that Peter gave Simon absolution, or assigned him the Rosary, or any number of Our Fathers to say.

40 posted on 02/21/2003 2:11:52 PM PST by Onelifetogive
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To: Onelifetogive
The only response you make to my post is to nitpick the spelling?
Untrue.
Well, actually it was true, as you didn’t say any of the stuff you say now, including:
My response was that the Scribes knew that "only God could forgive sins", but could not understand that Jesus was God.
Again, you take your theology from Scribes. Good for you.
The normal Catholic response is that "only God can forgive sins, but God does it through a priest."

That is why I posted the incident from Acts where Peter refered Simon the Sorcerer directly to God for forgiveness. Simon them asked Peter to pray for him. Christians, like Peter, pray for each other all the time. There is not any indication that Peter gave Simon absolution, or assigned him the Rosary, or any number of Our Fathers to say.

Of course not. Simon wasn’t repentant, and he was trying to buy forgiveness with his money. You would require, perhaps, that Peter take money for the Sacrament in order to prove it is a Sacrament? If it is a Sacrament one would expect him to refuse it to one who is trying to buy it, as that clearly demonstrates a lack of mental and faithful preparation to recieve it. As to it being all believers:
19 Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.
20 And when he had so said, he shewed unto them his hands and his side. Then were the disciples glad, when they saw the LORD.
21 Then said Jesus to them again, Peace be unto you: as my Father hath sent me, even so send I you.
22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:
23 Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained.
24 But Thomas, one of the twelve, called Didymus, was not with them when Jesus came.
25 The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the LORD. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe.
26 And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you.
Do you really believe that every believer was inside those doors, or perhaps that it was only the 12, as referenced in verse 24? Regardless, those in the room were ordained when Christ breathed on them, an ordination the Church passes down from generation to generation in Holy Orders. See also, Mt. 28:16-20
16 Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, into a mountain where Jesus had appointed them.
17 And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted. 18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

patent  +AMDG

41 posted on 02/21/2003 2:37:18 PM PST by patent
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