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Are God and Allah the Same?
CBN ^ | 04/02/03 | Pat Robertson

Posted on 4/2/2003, 10:33:54 PM by bedolido

CBN.com -- QUESTION: I was watching television last Sunday and heard a "minister" say that Allah and God were the same. What are your thoughts, and what are the distinctions if they are not the same?

PAT ROBERTSON: Under no circumstances is Jehovah, the God of the Bible, and Allah, of the Koran, the same. First of all, the God of the Bible is a God of love and redemption, who sent His Son into the world to die for our sins. Allah tells people to die for him in order to get salvation, but there is no understanding of salvation. Allah was the moon god from Mecca. That is why Islam has the crescent moon. The flag of Turkey has a crescent moon with a star in it. Well, the crescent moon is because Allah was the moon god, and that is the deal. But we don't serve a moon god. We serve the God of creation, the Creator of everything.

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1 posted on 4/2/2003, 10:33:55 PM by bedolido
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To: bedolido
The deity described in the Koran is not the same as the God described in either the Christian or Hebrew Bibles.

The deity of the Koran bears a closer resemblance to Marcion's Demiurge than anything else.

2 posted on 4/2/2003, 10:37:20 PM by wideawake (Support our troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
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To: bedolido
Pat Robertson is correct.
3 posted on 4/2/2003, 10:39:05 PM by KriegerGeist ("The weapons of our warefare are not carnal, but mighty though God for pulling down of strongholds")
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To: wideawake
NO!
4 posted on 4/2/2003, 10:39:20 PM by Kewlhand`tek
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To: bedolido
Who cares, they're both obsolete theories.

So9

5 posted on 4/2/2003, 10:40:39 PM by Servant of the Nine (We are the Hegemon. We can do anything we damned well please.)
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To: bedolido
A contrary view
http://www.jews-for-allah.org/Why-Believe-in-Allah/Allah-inthe-Jewish-Bible.htm
6 posted on 4/2/2003, 10:41:27 PM by JmyBryan
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To: bedolido
While Pat is a littel to liberal form me, in this case he is 100% right, allah is not God, allah is satan.
7 posted on 4/2/2003, 10:41:29 PM by 2timothy3.16
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To: bedolido
Allah was the moon god from Mecca. That is why Islam has the crescent moon.

Factually incorrect. Not suprising that Pat Robertson didn't exactly knock himself out doing any research.

There was no use of a Crescent as a symbol anywhere in Islam till the 1300s or 1400s. Stories vary on the precise origin, but it originated with the Ottoman Turks, and was a symbol of THEM, not of Islam or Allah. However, they were by far the most predominant Islamic nation and were identified with Islam by Christian Europe.

It's actually a sin to visually represent or symbolize God in Islam. Allah means "The God" in Arabic.

8 posted on 4/2/2003, 10:41:37 PM by John H K
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To: wideawake
The deity of the Koran bears a closer resemblance

to a certain fallen angel ...IMHO

9 posted on 4/2/2003, 10:42:07 PM by clamper1797 (Credo Quia Absurdum)
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To: wideawake
Of course, the God in the bible and allah are not the same.
The God of the bible gave his definition of sin in the 10 Commandments. (sin is transgression of the law) The allah of Mohammed states his own sins, and the God of the Bible, would not act as a pimp passing out 72 perpetual virgins for each man. This is rediculous. Muslims claim both Moses and Jesus for prophets, but do not believe or follow either one.
10 posted on 4/2/2003, 10:42:14 PM by tessalu
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To: Servant of the Nine
"the fool has said in his heart, there is no god"
11 posted on 4/2/2003, 10:42:26 PM by RolandBurnam
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To: bedolido
"Are God and Allah the Same?"

Only if you are an atheist.

12 posted on 4/2/2003, 10:42:29 PM by TommyDale
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To: bedolido
"Allah was the moon god, and that is the deal. But we don't serve a moon god. We serve the God of creation, the Creator of everything."

Moon God, Prince of Darkness

Seems to me that they are one and the same.

Semper Fi
13 posted on 4/2/2003, 10:44:27 PM by Leatherneck_MT (Can't stand rude behavior in a man.... Won't tolerate it.)
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To: bedolido
I wish more religious figures would speak out loudly on this subject. Also, the bizarre business of a murder/ suicide going to some anywhere but hell.
14 posted on 4/2/2003, 10:44:28 PM by tkathy
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To: bedolido
I've never seen them in the same place.
15 posted on 4/2/2003, 10:45:16 PM by dead
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To: bedolido
They are as different as The Holy Bible and The Koran.In Saddam, OBL et al's case allah is someone they think up (lucifer) due to too much hashish.
16 posted on 4/2/2003, 10:45:38 PM by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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To: Servant of the Nine
Who cares, they're both obsolete theories

Sure they are.

That's why, in a nation as modern as the US, there are so few devout Christians and so many millions who share Josef Stalin's theological viewpoint.

17 posted on 4/2/2003, 10:46:44 PM by wideawake (Support our troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
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Anyone who knows an Arab Christian knows that Allah is the Arabic term for God.

Whether the original "allah" was a moon god or stone god is just a red herring.

In Hebrew, the word for God is similar to Allah, (in singular Eloah and plural Elohim,) demonstrating that both Semitic languages share a similar etymology for their word "god."

I'm sure if someone looks up the history of the word "God", he will find out that it comes from the Germanic "Gott", which was a pagan deity worshipped by the Germanic tribes before they converted to Christianity.

18 posted on 4/2/2003, 10:48:21 PM by george wythe
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To: John H K
Good reply. A question for those on this thread would be

"What word would an arabic speaking christian (yes they exist) use for the name of their deity if not Allah?"
19 posted on 4/2/2003, 10:49:33 PM by activationproducts
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To: bedolido
The one true God is not the same as the false god Allah.
20 posted on 4/2/2003, 10:50:02 PM by k2blader ("Mercy, detached from Justice, grows unmerciful." - C. S. Lewis)
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