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To: Cleburne
**Also- and here I have some difficulty- the Church establishes Holy Tradition through the general workings and writings of the Church. In Orthodox thought, the Liturgy in particular expresses Church dogma, and is an expression of Holy Tradition- the Holy Spirit at work within the Church as a whole in this instance. The Fathers- in consensus- are also establishers of Holy Tradition, the Holy Spirit working through them together: not on their own but in consensus.**

And it is Holy Tradition that the Protestants miss altogether. In a way I feel sad for them.
27 posted on 04/14/2003 8:31:41 PM PDT by Salvation ((†With God all things are possible.†))
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To: Salvation
The Reformers never set about to demolish Catholicism, or to form a new Church. They set about to reform. Unfortunately, the other half did not see it as such. And in the fire and fog of war- often quite literally!- much good was lost.

I would agree that much of modern Protestantism is rather poverty-stricken in some ways. However, one should not get the idea that this was the intent of the Reformers: but, especially in the very important area of worship, things were neglected or pushed aside in order to deal with more "pressing" matters. But one cannot blame them over-much- they were after all worrying about eluding government that did not, er, share their religious persuasions. That, and the identity of anything with Catholicism tended to give it an evil appearance: so much so that many good things were tossed out (and such the Reformers acknowledged).

30 posted on 04/14/2003 9:03:56 PM PDT by Cleburne
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