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To: Siobhan; american colleen; sinkspur; Lady In Blue; Salvation; Polycarp; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; ...
NO, for we cannot do evil that good may ensue.

Evil .... that is the view held by the SSPX of the Novus Ordo mass.

What does that make us, who attend the NO Rite? A rite sanctioned by the Vatican?

2 posted on 04/25/2003 6:41:02 PM PDT by NYer (Christe Eleison.)
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The Society of Saint Pius X could never profit by Rome’s Indult (the traditional Latin Mass as allowed by Quattuor Abhinc Annos, 1984 and Ecclesia Dei Afflicta, 1988)

That about says it all! In fact, it's all or nothing .... nothing short of a total reversal of Vatican II will satisfy these people.

3 posted on 04/25/2003 6:45:04 PM PDT by NYer (Christe Eleison.)
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Why should this be a surprise? The Novus Ordo is a danger to the faith and offensive to anyone who realizes what's truly going on. It should have been rescinded long ago.
15 posted on 04/25/2003 7:59:43 PM PDT by ultima ratio
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Evil .... that is the view held by the SSPX of the Novus Ordo mass.

There has been quite a bit of hysteria on this thread over the description by the SSPX web site, that the Novus Ordo Mass is evil.

Applying the term evil to a valid and sometimes well-intentioned Sacrament is inappropriate. It can, however, be argued that the Novus Ordo Mass, while not evil in and of itself, has contibuted to Catholic society embracing evil and sinful habits.

Let's face it. Regardless of the intentions of the architects of the Novus Ordo, that Mass has led to a watering down of the Faith, it has compromised the teachings of the Church, it has placed political correctness ahead of Tradition. We all know most Catholics rarely go to Confession, many are using artificial bith control, most recieve Communion in the hand, most don't fullfil their obligations to attend Mass on Holy Days, the majority of American Catholics voted for Bill Clinton - twice, etc. etc.

Are all these ills directly a result of the Novus Ordo? No. Has the Novus Ordo indirectly caused Catholics to act evil? Certainly! If you disagree with this conclusion, answer this - Many polls indicate that the vast majority of married Catholics in their child-bearing years are using artificial birth control. How often do you hear a sermon at a Novus Ordo mass condemn this evil as a grave sin? In the thousands of Novus Ordo masses I have attended, I have never heard it condemned once. NOT ONCE. When a priest stands in the pulpit with a fairly good idea that a very large number of his congregation are committing grave sins and he does NOTHING about it (many times he even condones it) he is leading people away from God. This alone is a huge failure of the new Church.

The Novus Ordo may not be evil, but it has certinly made the Evil One's job easier.

68 posted on 04/26/2003 6:03:40 PM PDT by Aloysius
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