THE CHURCH COMPROMISED, PART I: Media Obfuscation of the Scandal

B. C. A. D. aka JT8D | May 21, 2003 | JT8D

[jt8d]

"I suppose you also think widespread clerical abuse of young boys by priests is a recent phenomenon as well."

I do. However, that sentiment is not to imply that homosexual perversion is a new phenomenon, but such debauchery has become integral to our culture, and infested within the Church, ever since we opened the gates to liberalism. The arrogant idea that God is simply all love--without justice, is pure situational ethics, a system which is of a Protestant origin. No suprise.

[jt8d]

"They are equal. I'll get the Vatican II references for you."

Excuse me, but I believe you have confused my argument with that of some other freeper. I argue against Vatican II, and yet you are going to cite Vatican II verbage to me? I think you missed something in the translation there chum.

"Tell me. Was Peter more favored in his vocation than Mary was in hers?"

Mary IS QUEEN of Heaven AND Earth...

Mary IS QUEEN of ALL the Apostles...

Mary IS QUEEN of ALL the saints...

Mary IS QUEEN of ALL the prophets, and of ALL matyrs...

The pope is Christ's vicar, to wit, His "representative" on Earth...

Mary has given specific instructions, yet to be obeyed, that the Pope is to consecrate Russia to Her Immaculate Heart in union with ALL the Bishops around the world...

Mary has stated "ONLY I CAN HELP YOU."

Mary IS MOST FAVORED AMONG WOMEN.

Celestial pecking order? You figure it out.

[jt8d]

"Being "apart" does not mean that they are not "equal.""

Oh, I see, so they are separate, but equal... That is a democratic notion right out of Protestant self-governed liberalism 101. To wit: Separate but equal branches of power. Such an arrangement does not qualify in the monarchy that is the Body of Christ, and which constitutes the governing form of the Roman Catholic Church.

[sinkspur]

Mary has given specific instructions, yet to be obeyed, that the Pope is to consecrate Russia to Her Immaculate Heart in union with ALL the Bishops around the world...

Oh, Lord. You actually follow that nutty, suspended priest?

I shan't be reading any more of your tripe.

I suspect you follow the schismatic SSPX as well.

[Land of the Irish]

Was Peter more favored in his vocation than Mary was in hers?

The Blessed Mother, Mary, was born without original sin. So the answer is, Mary was more favored.

[jt8d]

"Oh, Lord. You actually follow that nutty, suspended priest?"

If you are refering to Father Nicholas Gruner, then please note HE IS NOT A SUSPENDED PRIEST! That assertion is absolutely unequivocally false.

"I shan't be reading any more of your tripe."

"Shan't"? How quaint. "Tripe"? I think not.

"I suspect you follow the schismatic SSPX as well."

There you go again, condeming orthodox Catholics because they refuse to kowtow to a Qumran-kissing, pope, who has made theological statements that border ever so closely to crossing that fine line of heresy. Need I remind you that the Pope is infalible only in pertaining to doctrinal matters--and then only when in union with the Magisterium of the Church... something that John Paul II has usually steered a rather wide path from, especially when discussing ecumenical "reforms."

However, the night is long, and I shall leave you to your thoughts. Goodnight Sinkspur.

[jt8d]

Yes, I know--see posting 22. Sinkspur is the confused soul.

[Aloysius]

I'll get the Vatican II references for you.

OK, and I'll ask the wolf to guard your sheep.

[MarMema]

The arrogant idea that God is simply all love

Your post brought to mind a quote from a Russian Orthodox theologian in the 19th century, Khomiakov.

"Protestantism was nothing more than papal individualism brought to its logical conclusion. Rome had imposed upon the Christian West unity without freedom; the Protestants achieved freedom, but at the expense of unity. Yet neither unity without freedom nor freedom without unity was of any use. They both meant the isolation of man, and his exclusion from the redeeming influence of true Christian fellowship. The West had rejected the fundamental teaching of love, on which the whole life of the Church was based."