SEER FROM CHURCH-APPROVED SITE CLAIMS CHRIST IS PREPARING FOR A MANIFESTATION [End Times Alert]

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[TradicalRC]

Why not ray-on?

[Slyfox]

I have read several books by Michael Brown and find him to be too much "doom and gloom.

It's funny but when I was reading one of Brown's books back in 1990, he was talking about the anti-Christ and I had a vision of a guy who looked just like Bill Clinton.

[cpforlife.org]

Thanks for the ping!

BTTT!

[Canticle_of_Deborah]

Only men were given the privilege of writing scripture. Only men are given the privilege of writing encyclicals. Only men can administer the sacraments.

Administration of the Church and the priesthood is not the same as having a gift of the Holy Spirit.

In the scriptures, only Jesus had that gift as far as I can tell.

A woman (the Virgin Mary) bore the Redeemer and proclaimed His nature at His conception. A woman (the prophetess Anna) recognized the Savior at His Presentation in the Temple. A woman (Mary Magdalene) was the first to see the Risen Savior and proclaim the Resurrection to the disbelieving Apostles. The daughters of Phillip were said to be prophetesses.

The Catholic Church has had a multitude of female saints and mystics for 2000 years. Read Romans and Corinthians. Gender and the priesthood have never been a prerequiste for gifts of the Holy Spirit. Neither does Scripture teach that.

I'm not sure that women spoke in tongues back when that gift was genuine.

There is nothing in Scripture to support this belief. In fact, it is quite the opposite.

[Aliska]

It's not just administration of the church; it's also deciding what is right and wrong in matters of faith and morals, as guided by the Holy Spirit. Women have NEVER been allowed to make those determinations. True, all are supposed to have the gift, but not all receive the same gifts in the same measure.

None of those things you mentioned involves the reading of souls, although what you say is true otherwise.

The scripture is largely silent as to exactly how and to wom the specific gifts are distributed.

There is nothing in scripture to support that women did speak in tongues. It's pretty generic and vague on that point. I can't be sure one way or the other from my reading of scripture. If you know a specific scripture concerning women and spiritual gifts other than prophecy (on occasion women did have that gift such as Anna in the temple) and other than the ones you mentioned, please cite it.

A lot of the women saints would be considered mentally ill today and no one would put much credence on what they said and did, holy as they may have been otherwise.

[tiki]

It is plausible and I believe could happen but I have a tape from a few years back and all the things she said were going to happen in 2000, didn't.

[Aliska]

"sign and wonder" junkies.

I'm not any more, but it took a long time for me to realize that paying attention to and seeking those things was counterproductive, confusing, and a waste of time, for the most part.

[Desdemona]

At this point, approved or not, there are so many apparitions, visions and prophecies that all more or less have the same message, we must not ignore them.

I have no idea with are true and which aren't, but the sheer volume of them says the Lord has something cooking.

[Alkhin]

We know that a soul with an advanced level of spiritual development is open to supernatural experiences and gifts of the Spirit. That same soul however is an open portal to the unseen and subject to the attacks and deceptions of the dark and ambivalent residing in other realms. An individual in a spiritual process will frequently experience things before they have the ability to discern what is truth and what is not. This further underscores the necessity for a good spiritual director, particularly one who has achieved a certain level of spiritual development him/herself. In these times this can be difficult to find. Conversely, we are living in times where many souls are being called to higher levels. We are experiencing a great numbers of souls being propelled along a path with no map or experienced guidance. You speak the truth here. I dont know if I could ever call myself 'advanced' spiritually, especially when it feels like I have just begun, but I became an associate of the Order of St. Benedict because I believe God led me to it. He pierced my heart the day I read about it and I knew He was answering my searching for a True Path to Him...I have read the Kabbalah, and know that the same advice is advised to those adherents : find a suitable and experienced mentor. Do not embark alone.

To make a long story short, I am feeling very much alone at this point.

Best, Sharon Ferguson

[TotusTuus]

Only men were given the privilege of writing scripture.

God, the Holy Spirit, is the principle Author of all Holy Scripture. He used humans as active instruments in producing the texts. There are large sections of Holy Scripture in which we are not positively sure who the human author was. We know there is a portion (at least) of one psalm that was written by a woman (the mother of a king). I don't have the specific citation just this moment, but I can get it for later.

The point is, God can work through whatever person He chooses in giving supernatural gifts - as 'Canticle of Deborah' pointed out. Deborah herself was a judge of Israel! Also, think of St. Bernadette or the child Lucia from Fatima in receiving and giving to the world the Church approved messages sent by God through His Mother, the ever-Blessed Virgin Mary.

[Canticle_of_Deborah]

We know there is a portion (at least) of one psalm that was written by a woman (the mother of a king). I don't have the specific citation just this moment, but I can get it for later.

I think I know what you are talking about. I recently read that part of Proverbs was written by Bathsheba to Solomon.

- as 'Canticle of Deborah' pointed out. Deborah herself was a judge of Israel!

She was feisty when chicks weren't supposed to be feisty. I like her;-) Plus she's my namesake.

[Aliska]

Also, think of St. Bernadette

I do and you don't know whose account to believe. She was said to have gone catatonic after one of the visions at Lourdes and had to be carried to a home somewhere and was "out" for some time.

child Lucia from Fatima

Again, you don't know whose account to believe. The more I read about Fatima, the more I didn't know whom to believe. Some of Fatima was true prophetically, but the conversion of Russia hasn't happened. It still could in the future, but things on that front are looking pretty grim at the moment.

I don't pay much attention to any private revelations any more as most of it never comes true. That is the acid test for me.

Sometimes I wonder if a lot of them were deceived and the church went along with it because it promoted belief. I have come to believe that Guadalupe is a gigantic hoax that has been perpetuated down through the years, culminating in awarding sainthood to a person whose existence is doubtful. I used to be very gullible and it was easy to believe all that stuff. I think a lot of it isn't true. Some of it I can't explain and could be true but I wouldn't stake my life on any of it.

[Salvation]

**I smell false teaching**

If this is church-sanctioned that usually means that the seer has been approved through witnesses and/or written testimony to the local bishop. And then that is all sent to the Vatican for approval.

Pinging NYer for verification on this.

[Salvation]

**I don't believe God would reveal secret information**

God usually does choose normal peasants like the children at Fatima and Juan Diego at Guadalupe.

Just the other side of the coin.

[TotusTuus]

She was feisty when chicks weren't supposed to be feisty. I like her;-) Plus she's my namesake.

As far as women are concerned, Jael may have had the good fortune of hammering the tent stake, but Deborah got the canticle ;-)

[Salvation]

**It is your turn.” As this was happening Geo watched with amazement as his wife’s face transfigured into that of the Italian priest.**

This is amazing. Doesn't Maria Esperanza also have the stigmata (wounds of Christ)?

[Salvation]

**It is your turn.” As this was happening Geo watched with amazement as his wife’s face transfigured into that of the Italian priest.**

This is amazing. Doesn't Maria Esperanza also have the stigmata (wounds of Christ)?

(Like Padre Pio did!)

[Salvation]

**"as I was praying for Poland, I heard the words: 'I bear a special love for Poland, and if she will be obedient to My will, I will exalt her in might and holiness. From her will come forth the spark that will prepare the world for My final coming.'"**

It seems to me that this is speaking of Pope John Paul II. Won't all the Pope bashers be amazed when something like this really does happen??

[It's me]

I have to agree with you. Try this:

http://www.unitypublishing.com

And this:

http://www.unitypublishing.com/Apparitions/FalseApparitions.html

[It's me]

Actually, the local bishop of Medjugorje did, in fact, condem the apparitions. There are way too many false teachings in these so called "apparations." There have been too many discrepancies in the "seers" so called "visions."

If you read about any of the approved visionaries, they have all been approved by the local bishop. Also, and very important, I might add, the approved visionaries of the past are very holy and not "worldly" whereas the Medjugorje "seers" are very much into the fame and fortune of it all.

Go and read about it.