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Pope Visibly Unnerved At News of Boston Scandal
BillOReilly.com ^ | July 10, 2003 | Bill O'Reilly

Posted on 07/12/2003 6:35:06 PM PDT by NYer

(Rome) It is almost impossible to know what really goes on behind the scenes at a place as secretive as the Vatican.

Running the worldwide Roman Catholic Church with its more than one billion members is obviously an enormous undertaking and the important decisions are made by a few powerful clerics headed, of course, by Pope John Paul II.

But the Pontiff is 83 years old and not in good health. For Americans concerned about the declining image of the Church in this country, the question of the Pope's competency is crucial.

With that in mind, I recently traveled to Vatican City and sat in the third row at John Paul's weekly audience.

I watched him closely for 90 minutes and can tell you that although he can no longer walk, he was mentally alert. His eyes were clear and his voice retained some power.

But it was clear that the Pope's endurance is limited.

Few ever get to question the Pope and I have just one query for him: Why, Your Holiness, have you not acted more aggressively in combating the priest-sexual abuse scandal in America, a country that provides about half of your financing?

Although the Pope is beyond my reach, I was able to put that question to a number of Vatican insiders and have come up with what I believe is a cogent answer.

Pope John Paul II was furious when told that the scandals in the Boston Archdiocese had reached a flashpoint.

According to someone in the room with him when he received the news that Cardinal Law was to be deposed, he slammed his hand on his desk and yelled to his assistants: "You told me this situation would be taken care of the right way!"

The Pope was visibly angry and, shortly afterward, retreated into prayer.

And that is what the Pope mostly does these days: Pray.

He delegates almost all other duties to a variety of underlings, none of whom have the power or the insight to deal with a scandal as withering as this priest-sex abuse thing.

According to four sources who often deal with the Vatican, the bureaucracy at St. Peter's is so thick and entrenched that quick action on anything is impossible.

With the person in charge, John Paul, spending most of his time on spiritual reflection, there is simply no one in the Vatican hierarchy in place to help the tottering American Church.

This is tragic because for two centuries the Catholic Church in the USA has been a powerful moral voice.

It champions the poor, promotes respect for life, and generally acts as counterweight to the secular philosophy that challenges any judgments about personal behavior.

In America today there is an increasing tolerance for all kinds of actions that the country once deemed "immoral." For example, heroin dealing is now considered a "non-violent crime" by some.

Partial-birth abortion is embraced by a variety of groups including the National Organization for Women.

Drug legalizers have hired lobbyists in Washington as have homosexuals who want gay marriage to become sanctioned by the states.

Nearly anything goes in a secular society and a quick trip to Europe will prove that.

Show up in Amsterdam, Holland and you can see entire neighborhoods devoted to legalized prostitution and drug buying.

You can watch drug addicts shoot up and smoke hash in the train station. Great for the kids, right?

The Catholic Church at one time could authoritatively speak out against that kind of degeneracy.

The Church believes that your body is to be respected along with the bodies and souls of your neighbors. Anything that diminishes the human (or fetal) condition is questioned and sometimes condemned.

But that moral authority is now diminished.

Thanks to a few corrupt Catholic clergy and a paralyzed leadership in Rome, a reasonable, collective voice that promotes humanistic conduct has been put on the defensive and, in certain quarters, is even dismissed as irrelevant.

I believe Pope John Paul II is a good man; a person of dignity and compassion. But he has lost control of a situation that is causing societal damage far beyond the confines of the Catholic Church.

We should all dearly hope that the Pope's prayers are answered.

For the American Catholic Church right now, the only solution on the horizon is divine intervention.


TOPICS: Activism; Catholic; Current Events; General Discusssion; Moral Issues; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: bostondiocese; cardinallaw; pope; sexscandal; vatican
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1 posted on 07/12/2003 6:35:08 PM PDT by NYer
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To: american colleen; sinkspur; Lady In Blue; Salvation; Polycarp; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; ...
According to someone in the room with him when he received the news that Cardinal Law was to be deposed, he slammed his hand on his desk and yelled to his assistants: "You told me this situation would be taken care of the right way!"

We all know how quickly the Vatican moves ... zzzzzzzzzz.

2 posted on 07/12/2003 6:37:39 PM PDT by NYer (Laudate Dominum)
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To: NYer
"You told me this situation would be taken care of the right way!"

I'm shocked, totally shocked, to find that there is gambling in this House.

3 posted on 07/12/2003 6:37:58 PM PDT by Torie
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To: All
A horse walks into a bar. The bartender comes up and says "Hey pal, what will it be?"

The horse orders a beer.

A few minutes later, John Kerry walks in and sits at the bar. The bartender walks up and says "Hey pal, cheer up. Why the long face?"

I'll stop if you guys will donate and get us over our fundraising goal

4 posted on 07/12/2003 6:38:36 PM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: NYer
With the person in charge, John Paul, spending most of his time on spiritual reflection, there is simply no one in the Vatican hierarchy in place to help the tottering American Church.

This is a rather simplistic view on O'Reilly's part. Obviously, the american media is focused on the church here. However, the problem of sexual abuse amongst the clergy is worldwide - Europe, the Phillipines, South America.

5 posted on 07/12/2003 6:43:43 PM PDT by NYer (Laudate Dominum)
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To: NYer
O'Reilly is such a blowhard on this topic. But it does beg the question, what were they waiting for? Not the pope but his underlings...

Hmmmm....
6 posted on 07/12/2003 6:49:33 PM PDT by Desdemona
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To: Desdemona
For the American Catholic Church right now, the only solution on the horizon is divine intervention.

I wholeheartedly agree.

7 posted on 07/12/2003 7:51:03 PM PDT by Litany (The Truth shall set you free.)
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To: Akron Al; Alberta's Child; Aloysius; AniGrrl; Antoninus; Bellarmine; BlackElk; ...
Pingus ad omnes.
8 posted on 07/12/2003 7:57:45 PM PDT by Loyalist (This tagline has been put on hiatus for retooling.)
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To: NYer
"You told me..."

Okay, he delegated, and the people he delegated to gooned it up.

So where is he now?

Holy Father, the words you need are these: "Anathema, excommunicated, laicized."

Those, properly applied, will be a good start.
9 posted on 07/12/2003 8:34:49 PM PDT by dsc
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To: NYer
With that in mind, I recently traveled to Vatican City and sat in the third row at John Paul's weekly audience.

Thus transforming himself into an Instant Expert. I wonder if a stunt like this is enough to transform an Italian vacation into tax-deductible Investigative Journalism.

10 posted on 07/12/2003 8:56:25 PM PDT by Romulus
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To: Torie
"You told me this situation would be taken care of the right way!"

If this is an accurate statement then my question is what is the right way?

11 posted on 07/12/2003 9:06:14 PM PDT by PFKEY
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To: NYer
So you watched O'reilly last night too... I for one wish he would realize what is causing the scandals... infidelty... which I would say he is part of the problem... Michael Novak does a great column on this and O'Reilly in October. Here is the link if interested...

http://www.nationalreview.com/script/printpage.asp?ref=/novak/novak080502.asp

12 posted on 07/12/2003 10:05:03 PM PDT by Saint Athanasius (How can there be too many children? That's like saying there are too many flowers - Mother Theresa)
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To: NYer
Also, a couple of months ago... O'Reilly was calling the Pope senile... at least HIS VATICAN sources said that he was senile, now O'Reilly has changed his tune on that idea after reading his column...
13 posted on 07/12/2003 10:08:18 PM PDT by Saint Athanasius (How can there be too many children? That's like saying there are too many flowers - Mother Theresa)
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To: Torie
I'm shocked, totally shocked, to find that there is gambling in this House.

Even on the intentionally ironic level, a comprehensively stupid statement. We are a Church of sinners. Christ himself says that it's the sick who need a physician.

Are you bucking for Certified Catholic Basher status, or what's your reason for appearing in these threads? Seriously.

14 posted on 07/12/2003 10:21:08 PM PDT by Romulus
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To: Romulus
I don't think I really have the talent to be very good at CCB status, due to a lack of internecine theological weapons embeded in my synapses, plus, more importantly, my heart isn't in it, since I think the Catholic religion on balance does more good than harm on this planet. Perhaps I am here only to annoy you. I will ponder that one. The Mormons might be after me though. I posted tonight another Mountain Meadows bit, even though I find much about Mormons admirable. And there you have it. I will call them as I see them.
15 posted on 07/12/2003 10:29:45 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Torie
You don't annoy me. But since you have an interest in Catholic matters (which I welcome) you owe it to yourself to become better informed. For starters, though she does "more good than harm" that's not why the Church exists. She's not about moral culture; she's about a mode of being-in-communion. Catholic teaching and thought derive not from a juridical insistence on moral law, but from the existential commitment to being conformed to Christ.

I will call them as I see them.

Radical individualism is one of the first things you're going to have to give up if you're seriously interested in Christianity. Best wishes, and be sure to FReepmail me if you want any more in-depth information.

16 posted on 07/12/2003 10:56:16 PM PDT by Romulus
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To: Torie
Perhaps I am here only to annoy you.

Now there's a lofty and useful goal! (/sarcasm) Sheesh!
17 posted on 07/13/2003 1:45:26 AM PDT by Thorondir
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To: NYer
The problem is that you believe that the pope is such a good guy. Research and his own writings prove quite differently. Denial ensures that this problem will prevail.
18 posted on 07/13/2003 6:46:21 AM PDT by emmetta
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To: Litany
Whaddya think the Pope is PRAYING FOR???
19 posted on 07/13/2003 6:47:52 AM PDT by ninenot
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To: dsc; drstevej; BlackElk
"Anathema, Excommunicated, Laicized"...

And the BAD news is that he could do it in the time-honored fashion of the USArmy: every 10th person in a long line...and likely hit deserving targets every time.

Pinging Permanent Members of the Torquemada-Revival Committee.
20 posted on 07/13/2003 6:49:54 AM PDT by ninenot
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