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What todays Christian needs to know about the Greek New Testament
Trinitarian Bible Society ^ | Unknown | G.W. Anderson

Posted on 08/24/2003 3:06:56 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration

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1 posted on 08/24/2003 3:06:56 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration
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To: fortheDeclaration
KJVOnlyism in a Nut Shell:

"You do not need Greek to understand what God has given you in English!" ~ ftD

 

2 posted on 08/24/2003 5:03:03 AM PDT by drstevej
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Do you think that this distrust of the Greek text has anything to do with a distrust of educated pastors?

At Ruckman's school, are there courses in Greek and Hebrew? Or just courses in how to translate 16th Century English?
3 posted on 08/24/2003 5:09:12 AM PDT by Wrigley ( (Recognize that all true Christians will be Calvinists in glory,...))
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Do you think that this distrust of the Greek text has anything to do with a distrust of educated pastors?

All folks are educated. Some are educated at home, or some at sea, or some alone, or in university. Some of the "best educated" have arrived at the worst conclusions.

Jesus chose those considered uneducated to teach us a lesson.

4 posted on 08/24/2003 10:52:14 AM PDT by As you well know...
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As you well know... "Virtue is learned at a mother's knee, vice is learned at some other joint."
5 posted on 08/24/2003 11:15:40 AM PDT by drstevej
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Jesus chose those considered uneducated to teach us a lesson.

Since I like to back up ALL claims with Scripture, can you defend this one? By the way, the Apostle Paul was highly educated, and was the framer of much of the doctrinal writingof the NT.

6 posted on 08/24/2003 4:07:28 PM PDT by LiteKeeper
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Ha Ha Ha ...great line...is it yours?
7 posted on 08/24/2003 6:55:26 PM PDT by As you well know...
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Sure. Simon Peter and the boys were, roughly, the equivalent of N. E. Fisherman, nor Harvard grads
8 posted on 08/24/2003 6:58:24 PM PDT by As you well know...
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Nah, but I can not remember where I heard it. I think I saw it on a church sign as the title of a Mother's Day Message.
9 posted on 08/24/2003 6:58:52 PM PDT by drstevej
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Your citation of Saul tends to support my point. He was very smart and well-educated - and that was before he was Paul.
10 posted on 08/24/2003 7:00:03 PM PDT by As you well know...
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Memorable. I love it
11 posted on 08/24/2003 7:00:50 PM PDT by As you well know...
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To: Wrigley; drstevej
Always regretted droppin' out of Greek after I flunked the mid-term.

(got everything right, but the accents...)

12 posted on 08/24/2003 7:01:04 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (Fly in the Butt Balm Since April 2002)
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I donate it to you....
13 posted on 08/24/2003 7:02:34 PM PDT by drstevej
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To: Corin Stormhands
***got everything right, but the accents***

That was a gràve mistake. :~)
14 posted on 08/24/2003 7:09:39 PM PDT by drstevej
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To: Wrigley
Do you think that this distrust of the Greek text has anything to do with a distrust of educated pastors?

As I am more jaded and cynical, I think it is in large part a desire to keep the power of the hermeneutic in the hands of the person making the KJV-only claim. He who controls the text controls the hermeneutic. And how do you argue with someone who says "that's not what it says in the original" if you don't have any way to dispute it? Say, "Well the KJV is good enough for me."

In the end, it's about control and power.

15 posted on 08/24/2003 7:18:58 PM PDT by the808bass
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A donation, huh?

I applaud you on your goodwill

16 posted on 08/24/2003 7:24:26 PM PDT by As you well know...
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To: As you well know...; drstevej
He was very smart and well-educated - and that was before he was Paul.

I take it you're arguing that Saul suffered both brain damage and amnesia, to go along with the blindness, on the road to Damascus? And that Ananias only received an unction to restore Saul's sight, but not his memories and education?

17 posted on 08/24/2003 7:42:32 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Athanasius contra mundum!)
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I take it you're arguing that Saul suffered both brain damage and amnesia, to go along with the blindness, on the road to Damascus? And that Ananias only received an unction to restore Saul's sight, but not his memories and education?

Ha Ha Ha....no. my point that was Saul was very bright and well educated...and he was persecuting the Church that Jesus established; Matt 16:18. Really intelligent men can make very bad decisions.

The fact is that even after Paul/Saul was personally converted by Jesus, he was still sent to the Universal (Catholic) Church for instruction, to have his blindness cured (both physical and spiritual).

As you well know, contra mundum is a great orientation

18 posted on 08/24/2003 7:57:01 PM PDT by As you well know...
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he was still sent to the Universal (Catholic) Church for instruction, to have his blindness cured

too....many....presuppositions....brain...overloading....shutting.....down....power.....down....sequence.....3........2......1

19 posted on 08/24/2003 8:31:21 PM PDT by the808bass
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Ha Ha Ha...the same thing happens to me when I click on C-Span and catch a few minutes of Sen. Byrd blathering....my apoligies; and, on a Sunday yet
20 posted on 08/24/2003 8:46:38 PM PDT by As you well know...
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