To: drstevej
Thanks for the explanation. What you say, of course, is in perfect agreement with our view from the east. Precisely because both the RC and Calvinists are so happy with Augustine, the two of you have more in common with each other, than either of you have in common with us.
17 posted on
08/30/2003 8:49:07 PM PDT by
MarMema
To: MarMema
Rome is happy with Augustine?
What 'chu talkin' about, Willis?
19 posted on
08/30/2003 8:52:59 PM PDT by
drstevej
To: MarMema
Precisely because both the RC and Calvinists are so happy with Augustine, the two of you have more in common with each other, than either of you have in common with us. You are entirely mistaken on this. It is precisely conflicts over St. Augustine, especially the Protestants OVER reliance on him, that was the cause of the Reformation (and also the Jansenist heresy).
Again, the Catholic Church does not follow St. Augustine in our understanding of original sin, on predestination, on the necessity of faith for good works, etc. That is why Catholics and Protestants will never come to an understanding on justification. Until you understand this, you'll never get a good grasp on Catholicism, but continue incorectly thinking we believe in a parody of it coming to little more than Calvinism with a Pope, Sacraments, and Saints.
To: MarMema
If you think Catholics have more in common with the Calvinists than with the Orthodox you are absolutely insane.
49 posted on
08/31/2003 8:18:29 AM PDT by
Conservative til I die
(They say anti-Catholicism is the thinking man's anti-Semitism; that's an insult to thinking men)
To: MarMema
...the two of you [Catholics and Calvinists]
have more in common with each other, than either of you have in common with us. This statement is laughable. Ask the Calvinists how may sacraments they have and if they believe the sacraments impart grace.
To: MarMema; Hermann the Cherusker
the two of you have more in common with each other, than either of you have in common with us.That's the most ridiculous statement I've ever heard.
140 posted on
09/03/2003 6:43:13 AM PDT by
ThomasMore
(Pax et bonum!)
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